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[br]Question: Those folks that they catch on HOV, do they get to continue on hov after receiving the ticket or are the escorted off some how?


They probably have to get off at the next available exit.
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[br]Question: Those folks that they catch on HOV, do they get to continue on hov after receiving the ticket or are the escorted off some how?


They probably have to get off at the next available exit.


As vabigblue states, they must get off at the next exit. I'm wondering, if they don't and they get caught again, do they get another ticket?
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90% of the time they do not get off at the exit, they keep on going.






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Originally posted by vabigblue
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Originally posted by salsita
[br]Question: Those folks that they catch on HOV, do they get to continue on hov after receiving the ticket or are the escorted off some how?


They probably have to get off at the next available exit.


As vabigblue states, they must get off at the next exit. I'm wondering, if they don't and they get caught again, do they get another ticket?


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Depending on where they get pulled over, there may not be another exit. Coming toward DC, inside the Beltway, once you're on HOV you're committed.
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I agree with Mrs KLB, the state needs to hand out points with those tickets. As it currently stands, these people have turned it into their own HOT lane. If they average out the cost of the ticket against the number of times they are not being caught, the cost is in their favor. As more and more traffic moves along I95, there will be more people willing to risk the cost. If they knew they may lose their license from an accumulation of points, that would be different (I hope).
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That would be too drastic. If they can't drive, there won't be tickets.($$$)
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[br]I agree with Mrs KLB, the state needs to hand out points with those tickets....


I found the text of Senate Bill 508, approved by the Governer on April 12, 2004. It allows for 3 points to be assessed on the third and subsequent violations within five years of the first offense. A first offense remains $50 and no points. Does anyone know when this law should take effect?

I would include an excerpt, but the text strikes through some language, so I refer you to the following website, with emphasis on paragraph 1B:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?041+ful+CHAP0704

With regards Planning District 8, I don't know the boundaries, but as best I can tell, it includes at least Alexandria and Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William counties.
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Monetary fines are NOT enough to discourage those with a substantial amount of money to play fair. But points on the license hurt and can hurt badly!!

I think the points "awarded" for violations should be elevated high enough that two violations is enough to revoke licenses. Getting in the HOV lanes (especially on 395/95 where they are separate, dedicated lanes) is a deliberate move. There's no "oops, I just ended up here somehow..." I say give enough points on the license after the first violation to scare the pants off of potential violators and (I guess I'll be nice) give the out-of-towners an education on the highway system in Northern VA. If there is a second violation, then you are just blatantly disregarding the law and should be tarred and feathered!! Or at least not allowed to drive. Because after a second time, you are just displaying the fact that your either a selfish idiot...or just an idiot. Besides, idiots of any kind should be discouraged from sharing the roads with people who have morals and brains.

Harsh maybe, but a fair opinion, I think.[;)]
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JiggaJynx: New laws usually take effect in July.
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I agree with mirangus. It has to be something to get the violator's attention. These fines are too small to deter the person who "will just enter at any cost". Revoking licenses would be something to definitely get their attention.
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