Can I Vent? I Hate HOV Violators

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   Yeh, its something about the HOV lanes that will make people want to drive on them regardless if the regular lanes are free of traffic.  I don't understand it either. Strange!

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vabigblue Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote vabigblue Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2004 at 12:29pm
	Yeh, its something about the HOV lanes that will make people want to drive on them regardless if the regular lanes are free of traffic. I don't understand it either. Strange!

mertonbunker Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote mertonbunker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2004 at 12:47pm
	I am also very, very tired of the folks that get into the HOV between Dumfries and Rte. 123 around 5:50 AM, knowing full well thay cannot exit in Springfield before 6:00. They cause significant delays until Woodbridge, and add about 15-20 minutes to my daily commute. Why can't the legislature roll the start time back to 5:00 or 530 AM?[?] Hat's off to the Staties, who were out on Tuesday aftenoon at the exit near Rte. 234. They pinched a few violators, but unfortunately many more got through than were ticketed.

mfassler Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote mfassler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2004 at 3:01pm
	JiggaJynx-- It is 3 points for HOV violation-1st offense, 4 pts for 2nd offense, and 6 pts for 3rd offense. If you have 3 offenses within 3 years, you'll have 13 pts, and they take your license away for 90 days after 12 points. So, (while I have NEVER had this problem) they have addressed the law, but people are STILL willing to risk it to save a few hours on the road... 610 SLUG quote: Originally posted by JiggaJynx [br]AND we need to energize our lawmakers to put teeth into the law--ASSIGN POINTS.

ronin718 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote ronin718 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2004 at 4:07pm
	Unfortunately, the best way to do the enforcement entails posting a cop at each off ramp and flagging in violators. In turn, this puts delays on the lanes. And there have been MANY complaints about how the cops have caused great delays doing their on-the-spot enforcement. There needs to be some sort of give and take. If we want more enforcement, we need to be willing to sacrifice occasionally to get the *#(&^%$&$ violators nailed.

JiggaJynx Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote JiggaJynx Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2004 at 4:38pm
	Thanks, mfassler. Is giving points for HOV violation a recent change? Within the last year, I recall folks saying points were not being assessed. Cheers!

DC2RV Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 28 Feb 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 1014	Post Options Post Reply Quote DC2RV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2004 at 5:11pm
	I agree with Ronin. It may be hassle to have to slow down or be stopped in order for the cops to stop the violators, but that's a price I'm willing to pay. Of course, if you have cops at the on-ramps, the state will probably want to erect booths. First, it'll be innocuous - the rationale will be to protect the police from inclement weather. But then it'll evolve - "Hey, we've got these great booths, let's put in toll colletors and open HOV to HOT." But hey, who am I kidding, the state would never connect those dots...or would they?

Arbo Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 28 May 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arbo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2004 at 8:33am
	DC2RV - They don't have to connect the dots - you just did it for them. Remember, the answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything is 42. We just don't know the Question.

vabigblue Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote vabigblue Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2004 at 10:07am
	quote: Originally posted by DC2RV [br]I agree with Ronin. It may be hassle to have to slow down or be stopped in order for the cops to stop the violators, but that's a price I'm willing to pay. Of course, if you have cops at the on-ramps, the state will probably want to erect booths. First, it'll be innocuous - the rationale will be to protect the police from inclement weather. But then it'll evolve - "Hey, we've got these great booths, let's put in toll colletors and open HOV to HOT." But hey, who am I kidding, the state would never connect those dots...or would they? LOL DC2RV. But I wish you hadn't mentioned "connecting the dots". If they don't know about this site yet, they will soon. LOL.

salsita Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote salsita Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2004 at 11:30am
	Question: Those folks that they catch on HOV, do they get to continue on hov after receiving the ticket or are the escorted off some how?

Mrs.KLB Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 20 May 2003 Location: Va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mrs.KLB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 2004 at 11:53am
	Last Thursday morning there where so many cops on the HOV, in cars and on motorcycle and violators riding right on by them like they where nothing. When I got to the Springfield interchange, there was a cop sitting on a motorcycle with his bike facing the lanes, there was a guy on the right hand side of me clearly violating he rides right by the cop at normal speed the cop looks in his car as he ride by and did not stop him. This was not a law enforcment, clean fuel rider this was your average violator. Now on the other hand I have had a cop to signal me in my mirror to move over so that he could get a violator that was in front of me, I guess he had been following him for a while and couldn't find the right opportunity to pull him over.In the 7 years that I have been using HOV this year has really been the worst I have seen the violating it's like they really do not care. I keep saying VIRGINIA NEEDS TO START GIVING POINTS TO VIOLATORS!!! Mrs. B