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dickboyd
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Governor Schwarzenegger in his state of the state message pointed out that W owes California big time. Not because they voted for Kerry, but because California is a donor state. California gets back 80 cents of every federal tax dollar collected in the state. Dick boyd's comment: The donated 20% is about the same as the amount of federal taxes collected in an eastern state like Virginia. Political analysts pointed out that W would not have won Ohio had it not been for Arnold campaigning in Ohio. Arnold mentioned, in his speech, that W owes California big time. I believe Virginia is an acceptor state. Virginia gets back more money from the Federal Government than is collected in taxes. If the "t" part of HOt is defeated, how then will any roads or road maintenance be financed? How will the TransTexas highway from Galveston to Detroit be financed? Hopefully not by Californians. dickboyd@aol.com |
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JiggaJynx
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The group wants to preserve the HO part...for every vehicle. As for Lingamfelger, I reserve judgment. I am in his district but did not vote for him. When I shook hands with him before the last election, I asked specifically for his plan to improve the transportation mess. His answer was vague. In addition, growth in his district seems to be unchecked, and the roads are not keeping up with the growth. Yeah, I know that's true everywhere, but I can only speak from my experience. An afternoon trip home from the commuter lot that took me 20 minutes 4 years ago now takes 30 minutes of sitting through lights 2 or 3 times on Prince William Parkway, Dale Blvd, and Minnieville. At that rate, the 20-minute trip will take an hour before I'm eligible to retire.
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dickboyd
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/07/national/07intel.html?th Virginia mulls new challenges to hybrids in HOV lanes Featured Advertiser The boom in hybrid cars is cutting into the efficiency of the travel lanes, a task force reports. State task force and Federal Highway Administration urge state to eliminate special highway privileges for clean-fuel vehicles. By EDIE GROSS Date published: 1/7/2005 Hybrid-car drivers who enjoy special access to Virginia's High Occupancy Vehicle lanes are seeing that privilege challenged yet again. A task force looking at how to improve traffic flow in the state's HOV lanes has recommended for the second time that lawmakers no longer give hybrid owners carte blanche to use the faster lanes. And federal officials are once again pressuring the state to reconsider the pro-hybrid policy. Under a state law enacted in the mid-1990s, owners of so-called "clean special fuel" cars can use the HOV lanes without the required three occupants other cars must have. The law is scheduled to expire on July 1, 2006, though hybrid owners have pushed for its extension. The legislation was designed to encourage sales of the fuel-efficient vehicles and promote use of what were then underutilized travel lanes. It worked. As of October, 5,660 hybrid vehicles were registered in Virginia, 95 percent of them in the Fredericksburg area and Northern Virginia. But in a report released late yesterday, the state task force said that hybrid car use--particularly in Northern Virginia--has increased so much that it's becoming "a major contributor to the eroding performance of the HOV lanes on I-95." Hybrids like the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight, which run on a mix of gasoline and electricity, now account for up to 19 percent of the cars in the I-95 HOV lanes during the peak morning hours, the report states. The HOV lanes were designed to carry no more than 1,800 cars per lane per hour, the report says. But they're carrying about 1,900 cars per lane per hour now. The report offers a number of recommendations, including requiring hybrids to carry three occupants if their drivers want to use HOV lanes; tightening the standards used to define a "clean special fuel" vehicle; increasing the plate fees for those vehicles from $10 a year to $500 a year and using the extra money for HOV- lane maintenance and enforcement; and allowing the existing exemption for hybrid owners to expire on July 1, 2006. The group made some of these same recommendations in 2003, not long after it was formed to crack down on HOV violators. Hybrid owners criticized the effort then, and likely will again. The Federal Highway Administration has also weighed in on the issue. Federal law gives cars that don't use gasoline special access to HOV lanes. But the agency sent the Virginia Department of Transportation a letter in April 2003 indicating the state may be violating federal law by giving those same privileges to hybrids, which use some gas. At the time, Congress was considering legislation that would allow states to grant HOV access to hybrids. So the Federal Highway Administration agreed to delay action against Virginia until Congress finished its work. The U.S. House of Representatives has passed two measures giving states more power over that sort of thing, but the Senate still has not, said Chris Connelly, spokesman for U.S. Rep. Jo Ann Davis, R-1st District. The Federal Highway Administration sent a second letter to VDOT on Dec. 8, 2004, warning Virginia that it shouldn't allow hybrid cars to cause congestion in the HOV lanes. Division Administrator Roberto Fonseca-Martinez asked VDOT to analyze the impact of hybrids on the HOV lanes and to consider eliminating the special privileges for hybrid drivers. He asked that VDOT send him a report on its progress by Feb. 28. "It has recently come to our attention that the number of hybrid vehicles using the Northern Virginia HOV lanes along Interstates 395/95 has greatly increased over the last 8 months. Also we have learned that the operation of the HOV lanes is beginning to degrade, which could directly affect the original intent of providing a travel incentive for transit, vanpools and carpools," he wrote. "We are very concerned." For a link to the entire HOV task force report, visit fredericksburg .com. To reach EDIE GROSS: 540/374-5428 egross@freelancestar.com Date published: 1/7/2005 dickboyd@aol.com |
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goober
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I attended the Wednesday night meeting and it was very good. There were a number of side bars, but that’s to be expected when everyone feels the need to vent.
We should be grateful that Scott Hirons has been so diligent in helping spearhead and organize this effort against HOT. I have absolutely no affiliation with Scott but I admire someone who understands the politics behind these type of issues and willing to help resolve them. However, I’ve been pondering a point made by a gentleman that said he would help but didn’t think that we could win. I believe the reason he said was that we offer no real positive alternatives to HOT. In turn, what else can we offer as solutions that can make these supervisors look good since the contractors have made a convincing pitch with their proposals (my interpretation of what he said). There are a number of things that can be done to help improve HOV usage and flow, but I don’t think they make a major impact. HOT will have a major impact and make the supervisors look good to the majority of non-HOVusers in trying to solve our traffic problems. In the eyes of the supervisors, how is keeping the status quo a solution? Nevertheless, I will do my part in helping to defeat HOT. Goober |
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quote: I wonder...during the 80's CA got more than it's share of federal defense $$'s (especially aerospace) while states like VA were shorted on federal impact $$'s. Lest one think the federal footprint isn't very large, live in Hampton Roads for a few years and see what the area is like when a couple of carrier strike groups leave/return from deployment. That impact extends to schools, infrastructure, etc. Many of those svc members are not VA residents either -- nor should they be compelled to. Net effect is/was still a shortfall in revenue that has to be accounted for in some way -- either increase in federal impact money, raise taxes that impact everyone (e.g., sales/property) or try and make do with less. From appearances sake, it seems that option three is the option of choice [V] - Will |
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SpongeBob
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Um, pardon me, Misters, but what's the California thing got to do with Looking for Allies to Battle HOT? I know Dick Boyd lives in Cali now, but to say that we should have tolls on OUR roads because that will somehow redress a debatable inter-state tax imbalance... well, that makes just a whole lot of sense. I'm sure ready to pay.
Kidding aside, I appreciate Dick's comments and experience, and am glad he's part of our discussion. But I view California's federal tax deficit vis-a-vis Virginia as a mere deposit on what they owe us for the creation of reality TV, the Game Show Network, Joanie Loves Chachi, and a general cultural fixation on silicone enhancement. (Hmm. No one's ever called a sponge a gentleman before.) |
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JiggaJynx
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Wednesday's HOT meeting made the news in the Northern Virginia Journal: http://www.jrnl.com/PDFs/nva/friday.pdf
I won't reproduce it here, since I don't have permission from the Journal. |
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Road Warrior
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quote: It also made the Washington Post (front page below the fold) which I also will not reproduce but here is a link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54561-2005Jan6.html). John |
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JiggaJynx
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Actually, they're different articles. The Journal article was written by the journalist who attended Wednesday's meeting.
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