hybrids get them off HOV

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Originally posted by Paul HOVillegal
[br]Please leave qorc. My head hurts when I read your message.

Paul

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Then don't read them. I don't recall anyone forcing you too.

I guess you have a hard time with dissenting opinions. That's your problem. If you don't have facts, just attack me, eh?

I think I'm bringing up a legitimate issue here. If you don't like it, I'm not going to lose any sleep.

Moron, your bus is leaving. Get on it.

Geez, last time I took a look at the overhead sign boards, it did say HOV3 and Motorcylces. 3 people is 3 people, kids or otherwise. Sheesh.
Living and commuting north from Stafford for over 23 years, I cannot tell you how many times I've hollered out to a family (of 3 or more) stewing in a morning or afternoon rush and hinted that they use the HOV lanes. Never occurred to me I would be promoting violation of someone's personal feng shui. Hmmmm.
And as a biker, the arguments to get motorcycles off HOV are specious. Contrary to the suggestion of some, we are more environmentally friendly in that fuel efficiency is maximized and emmisions are fewer. (Seen the '06 and beyond Federal EPA guidelines impacting motorcycle emissions lately? Take a look.) And save the argument that we also occupy a lane. Hardly. As a smaller obstacle in flight, HOV drivers rarely give us the room otherwise granted four wheelers. Certainly, I would like to see the state of Virginia motor vehicle laws changed to allow motorcylists to run two abreast in a lane, and allow for lane-splitting at certain speeds (as is currently allowed in California).

Ride on.

They neede to get the hybrids off the roads. There will be 5 hybrids to one carpool car. HOV still be crowded and so does the main lanes so what is the purpose of carpooling when ther still will be traffic no matter if you carpool or not. I vote hybrids out. Also as soon as they do vote hybrids out they too will be getting in the slug-line trying to get a riders or park there cars and get a ride. So we need to make sure we look at the individuals that are driving these hybrids vehicles and remebering there faces so when they need us for help we say no you wouldn't help us when hybrids was aloud on the road so why now.

elw

Actually, the better way is to BAN ALL CARS OTHER THAN HYBRIDS from the express lanes, and make folks take the bus. It's the single best way to improve the overall traffic flow while improving regional gas efficiency and reducing consumption. It also will bring down gas prices not only for autos, but also for home heating - and winter is just around the corner!

Buy the hybrid and quit your moaning - and then pick up some slugs.

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Originally posted by Wagonman
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Originally posted by NoSUV
[br]Actually, the better way is to BAN ALL CARS OTHER THAN HYBRIDS from the express lanes, and make folks take the bus. It's the single best way to improve the overall traffic flow while improving regional gas efficiency and reducing consumption. It also will bring down gas prices not only for autos, but also for home heating - and winter is just around the corner!

Buy the hybrid and quit your moaning - and then pick up some slugs.

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Why allow hybrids? Ban them too and make the drivers take the bus. I actually take the bus much more now than I pick up slugs and I have to say the amount of hybrids in the HOV lanes while I'm on the bus is staggering. There are a few that have 2 people in them but I've kept rough count on some rides and about half the vehicles that I see are hybrids.

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The reason to keep hybrids is to get the auto industry to provide more of them - perhaps to the point that they no longer make the gas guzzlers. VA can't legislate that the auto companies have to make hybrids only, but they can certainly help with the demand.