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tameraj
New Slug Joined: 22 May 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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quote: AGREE! I tried the new area in the Horner lot the first day it opened (and on several occasions afterwards) - as of today I returned to Potomac Mills for my sanity. Anyone know how Potomac Mills was able to successfully split the slug lines? It works great there. Tackett's Mill is unofficially trying to do the same thing but the lot really is too small for that. Horner should've split the line years ago. I assume it's a matter of retraining the drivers, getting the word out. Anyone gone to VDOT yet for approval? Sorry if these questions were already answered - I haven't read through all the current posts. If they can split up Horner I think it would solve hundreds of morning headaches (I always took 2 aspirin before going to Horner). ;-) |
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bluezes
New Slug Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I would like to start slugging from the "new" Horner Road lot. Can someone please tell me, are there many commuters/cars going to 18th Street in the city in the morning? And is it easy to catch a slug ride home in the evening from 14th and New York Avenue to Horner Road? Thanks
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UBStupified
New Slug Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I agree it would be nice two form at least two differrent lines. I propose that the first line should stay in the existing location and be for all No. VA locations. I also propose that a line form in the new lot for all DC locations. Drivers picking up for No. VA locations, continue to enter the lot from the Parkway and form a line as always. Drivers picking up for DC locations should enter via Telegraph entrance and form a line there.
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jhatton1980
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OK gang. It has been a week. We have all seen that the line is getting longer each day. Traffic patterns need to change. We need to split the lines so more cars get through more quickly. Suggestions on how to do this?
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Eric
New Slug Joined: 01 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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quote: Well, for downtown destinations, that should definitely be a separate location, as they have no relationship with any Northern VA destination. The idea for having Rosslyn & Crystal City co-located with the Pentagon line is that Rosslyn/Crystal City drivers can always take a Pentagon rider if nobody shows up for their destination. Their presence in line won't make any appreciable difference to the Pentagon-only folks. Until some folks decided to ruin it and cut the one-and-only line, the system I suggest worked extremely well at Tackett's. The bottom line for Rosslyn/Crystal City folks, though, is that it increases the wait time (on average) if they're forced to have their own line. I should add that drivers & slugs should be using signs. If there's currently confusion about where cars back down the line are going, "walking the line" works best. That is, since Pentagon seems predominant, people for other destinations start at the head of the line of cars and walk the line, holding a sign for their destination. Unless that's just not workable at the present location. - Eric. Edited by - Eric on 16 Jul 2002 16:05:07 |
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decslug
New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I have been slugging from Horner Rd for a couple of years and I agree that the line needs to be broken up - and soon! With the expansion of the lot and the changing traffic patterns it is becoming more and more congested and hazardous.
I agree that a new entrance from the back of the lot is a good idea. However because there is such a large number of cars going to the Pentagon I think one line should be solely for Pentagon commuters and the other should be for the rest of the destinations (Not sure where the best location would be - Maybe Pentagon to remain at the current site and the others to move to the expanded area). Maybe the lines can eventually break out even more (Pentagon, Rosslyn/Crystal City, Downtown). I don't think starting a seperate line for the Downtown commuters would shorten the line much and one of the main problems is that the line is often too long to be manageable. Those people furthest from the cars cant hear where the drivers are going and many people jump the line out of turn causing confusion and frustration. Seperating the lines should be relatively easy with a few signs. There may be a couple of days of confusion, but it will definitely be worth it. quote: quote: |
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decslug
New Slug Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I have been slugging from Horner Rd for a couple of years and I agree that the line needs to be broken up - and soon! With the expansion of the lot and the changing traffic patterns it is becoming more and more congested and hazardous.
I agree that a new entrance from the back of the lot is a good idea. However because there is such a large number of cars going to the Pentagon I think one line should be solely for Pentagon commuters and the other should be for the rest of the destinations (Not sure where the best location would be - Maybe Pentagon to remain at the current site and the others to move to the expanded area). Maybe the lines can eventually break out even more (Pentagon, Rosslyn/Crystal City, Downtown). I don't think starting a seperate line for the Downtown commuters would shorten the line much and one of the main problems is that the line is often too long to be manageable. Those people furthest from the cars cant hear where the drivers are going and many people jump the line out of turn causing confusion and frustration. Seperating the lines should be relatively easy with a few signs. There may be a couple of days of confusion, but it will definitely be worth it. quote: quote: |
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Racee
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Eric
New Slug Joined: 01 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My thoughts (as someone who may soon try Horner) is that you're pretty much on the right track. I'd suggest the grouping should be Pentagon/Rosslyn/Crystal City in one line/location and Downtown in the other. It makes sense to keep the first grouping as a single line because that way drivers headed to Rosslyn or Crystal City can opt to take Pentagon riders if necessary (or a mixture). Admittedly, this probably only applies at either end of the rush hour, but during the summer, with vacations, things get wierd. The trip through the Pentagon only adds a minute or two, so if you're in a single line it doesn't pay to wait.
As to which location to put which group... Is there a clear relationship between eventual destination and whether folks come in off 95?? That is, if the folks coming in from 95 are more likely to be headed to Pentagon/Rosslyn/Crystal City, then they should be at the old bus island. But if the folks coming in from the 'local' area (Lake Ridge, Minnieville Rd., etc.) are mostly headed to a particular destination, then the new bus island is the correct place. Otherwise, somebody flip a coin... - Eric. |
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Bslug
New Slug Joined: 09 May 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I was also there this morning - you are right nothing has changed.
I am all for your idea of starting new lines for Downtown and Rosslyn similar to the ones at Potomac Mills. I have a plant that may prove to be more difficult to implement than it sounds, but here goes: I think the first thing is to somehow inform the downtown destination drivers to enter the lot through the new Telegraph Road entrance to separate them from the pentagon drivers. Perhaps the webmaster can post a message on this site for drivers. Then the next thing is for slugs like myself to print up signs for 14th and 18th or Rosslyn and form a line at the new lot at separate spots. With any luck it may catch on. What do you think? |
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