Two Lines for Horner Road

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   I like the new Horner Road lines. I  have not had to wait more than 5-10 min for a ride and now that the line stands back from the bus stop I have not seen a bus block the other lane. Thank You everyone for you effort.

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swichowski Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote swichowski Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 2002 at 8:10am
	I like the new Horner Road lines. I have not had to wait more than 5-10 min for a ride and now that the line stands back from the bus stop I have not seen a bus block the other lane. Thank You everyone for you effort.

Chris Goetz Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Goetz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2002 at 4:47pm
	But ignored by whom? Who ignored what and when? Changing the slug line was a VOLUNTEER EFFORT. You can armchair this thing or get involved. That's the point. There is no "slug council" that decides these things, just individuals who want to faciliate slugging and hope they are doing the right thing. I think the new slug system at Horner Road is working out. I have mostly driven, but the slugs I am picking up all tell me they were not waiting long. I haven't waited long either. That's a sign of a system operating well. quote: Well, actually thare have been at least a couple of other suggestions which appear to have been ignored.

mlrdad Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Sep 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote mlrdad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2002 at 9:29am
	Well, actually thare have been at least a couple of other suggestions which appear to have been ignored.

leblanc9425 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 06 Aug 2017 Location: Woodbridge Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote leblanc9425 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2002 at 6:17am
	M.R. Slug, Thank you and to the other sports coats for helping out. I would like to see those who dislike the idea to do more than complain. The proposal may not be perfect but it was a good start. Finding fault with someone's idea is the easy part but actually getting involved with another solution is the hard part. Perhaps those who would like a different system at Horner could: develop a new flyer, organize its distribution, and be willing to accept harsh criticism. Edited by - leblanc9425 on 25 Sep 2002 06:25:54 Edited by - leblanc9425 on 25 Sep 2002 06:27:33

M.R. Slug Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 23 Sep 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote M.R. Slug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2002 at 3:57pm
	Actually, it was one suit and one sports coat and slacks. I was the suit. Neither myself not Mr. sports coat were directed to hand out flyers. We knew that the line was changing and we took it on our own initiative to "get the word out". Like our fellow slugs, we want what is the best system. Since you are so sure that the commute is now more difficult, I encourage you to get involved. Since you have spent time driving around the Horner road lot, I assume you have an in-depth knowledge of the lot layout. Therefore, please design a new flyer that will once again make your commute less difficult. Once you have it all figured out, please begin to distribute the flyers. It's time to get off the bench and come on in for the big win! Remember, nobody likes an armchair slug. Before creating the Horner Road Flyer, did any one of you drive through the new lot to see where the slugs should wait AND where the drivers should go to pick them up? No? That's what I thought. On my way home Monday night (16 Sep) I drove through the new Horner lot to see how and where a driver should go WITHOUT interfering with the buses. Due to the design and layout of the parking lines and "islands", there is no efficient way to drive, although there are plenty of places for slugs to wait. Thanks for making my commute more difficult.

Chris Goetz Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Goetz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2002 at 3:38pm
	Slug lines should form west of the designated bus lane. That way cars can back all the way up, and the bus has plenty of room. I think this solution will work. quote: Today, I was "second in line" and stood by the shelter closest to Telegraph road. The other gentleman was at the far side of the shelter closest to the old lot. After a few more people arrived, I convinced the all the slugs to stand on my side. (Due to the bus incident the day prior) We had a pretty good line established by 6:10. When I final got a ride, the driver took four of us. Before we could drive away, the bus showed up and as usual, the driver started blowing the horn. This is not making a good case for us. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where we should put the slug line? I'm afraid if the line doesn't move soon, we will be "kicked out" by whomever has "operational control" of the commuter parking lot. I won't beat the dead horse by making any more "I told you so" comments. Gold89

Chris Goetz Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Goetz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2002 at 3:33pm
	The new line is not designated to stand in the bus lane. Sluggers should stand on the west side of the bus lane. This will only happen if an early am slug starts the line there. Just DO IT. quote: I was riding the bus this am. Picked me up at the location of the new slug line. As we were departing a car cut in front of the bus to pick up someone. Buss had to slam on brakes and I almost was thrown to the floor. Bottom line - the location of the new line is clearly marked for bus use only. Someone is going to get hurt as a result of this bad (and probably illegal) idea.

Chris Goetz Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Goetz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2002 at 3:31pm
	If anyone out there slugs in at 6am, please just stand behind the bus lane. There's lots of room between the bus stop and telegraph road for cars to back up, and since there are two lanes flowing easterly, the Bus can easily get around the cars. It's simple, safe, and sluggers and buses can all be happy. quote: YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST from the loudest opponent. Two lines at Horner can work...HOWEVER... The drivers picking up slugs are currently using the "bus lane". It will not be long before they start to interfere with the buses. This is where half of my complaining is. A little more research on the part of the "changers" and this might not be a problem now. Any suggestions from anyone who knows what the lot looks like? Edited by - Gold89 on 18 Sep 2002 06:45:24

Chris Goetz Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Goetz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2002 at 3:29pm
	This is easy. Slug lines should form BEHIND the bus lane. If you looked a the layout, you will note the is PLENTY of room for cars behind the bus land, and PLENTY of room for the bus to move around waiting cars, get in its land, and pick up slugs. This should be common sense to slugs. Slugging is informal. No outside body regulates it. If you want to make sure the line forms properly, then get up at 5:30am in the morning and direct the slugs. Nothing happens in slug world without a volunteer stepping forward. The old system did NOT work. Sometime after 7am, traffic would start backing up to Prince William parkway so you couldn't even get into the lot. Slugs would walk this line of cars and it was DANGEROUS. That's why this had to happen. Volunteers suggested it. Volunteers made it happen. I have been using the system, both driving and slugging, and I LOVE it. I have not stood in line very long waiting for a downtown DC ride, nor have the people I pick up, because I have asked everyone I have picked up if the waited long. I think it's working great, and I have not witnessed any conflict with buses. quote: (Posted here for Bslug) Before creating the Horner Road Flyer, did any one of you drive through the new lot to see where the slugs should wait AND where the drivers should go to pick them up? No? That's what I thought. On my way home Monday night (16 Sep) I drove through the new Horner lot to see how and where a driver should go WITHOUT interfering with the buses. Due to the design and layout of the parking lines and "islands", there is no efficient way to drive, although there are plenty of places for slugs to wait. Thanks for making my commute more difficult.

mlrdad Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 16 Sep 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote mlrdad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 2002 at 5:21pm
	Suggeston for new slug line location - how about the inside of the island opposite the old slug line? Seems to me this would alleviate conflict with busses and allow some flexibility should the need arise.