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Lone Wolf
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Cal,
Lane splitting is where motorcycles may ride on the staggered white line separating two lanes of same directional travel, between automobiles, both when traffic is moving at less than expressway speed and when stopped. It is an allowable practice in CA. lw....Ride on |
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SpotsySlugBug
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There was a a blatantly obvious violator this morning to our right and a state police car was 2 cars behind us. When the violator got off at Springfield, do you think he pulled her over? NO. grrr
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VA4ver
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Lane splitting is stupid. Cycles should follow the same rules as other vehicles. If you ride a cycle you choose to sit with your two feet planted on the pavement when traffic is stopped.
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carleric
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LW - Thanks for the info. That sounds like potentially incredibly dangerous for the guys (and gals, of course) on the bikes.....
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vabigblue
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Lane splitting is common in the United Kingdom. When I was stationed there, that's all you saw going in and coming out of London. I mean cyclists would be lined up behind each other between 2-3 lanes of traffic.
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Lone Wolf
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VA4ver....
Interestingly, I happened upon a govt sponsored link this morning that substantiated the allowance for motorcycles in the HOV lanes by suggesting the fact that two wheeled vehicles are safer when they are *rolling*. Hmmmm... I'll buy that. And so, as the traffic in this area grows to the point that things come to a California-type standstill, well, I'll let your imagination take it from there. lw - Ride on |
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VA4ver
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Safe when moving only because you are exposed -- it's your skin and the pavement. It's your choice on the mode of transportation but the same rules apply.
You are probably one of the responsible cyclists out there, but give those fools who ride those made-for-speed cycles the ability to lane split, and see what happens. We would have the fools zipping this way and that. Of course, this is off the subject of why the police were out in such force (and it wasn't the end of the month) and how they could do it better to prevent a tie up. |
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SlugR
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Enforcement objective = good; execution = bad. Let's say, for argument's sake, that 50,000 people were 1 hour late yesterday from this enforcement. At an average of $30/hr salary means $1.5M in lost productivity. There were about 52 violators caught; so, even at $1000 per violator, the fines collected would be $52,000. Subtract from that the additional law enforcement costs and it's a no-brainer that this action cost the area much more than it gained. There may be long-term benefits if the number of violators goes down, but it will take a long time to recover what was lost.
Random enforcement at exits--including north of 495--seems to be a better way to catch violators. |
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Max_28756
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Did anyone ever think the police might have used the HOV enforcement as a cover for other motives? Maybe they were looking for someone and for legal reasons had to stop everyone so the person they were looking for couldn't cry they were singled out by the police with profiling. There may just be some things the police were aware of that morning that we don't know about. Food for thought.
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Lone Wolf
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VA4ver....
Agreed. The pinheads sporting the latest Power Ranger chic on board the Japanese crotch rockets scare the he!! out of me as well. Though in the minority, these riders have been fairly successful at trashing the the image of the typical biker/rider. These guys would be killed off in no time were lane splitting leagalized. But I digress. Apologies to all for the temporary hijack/sidebar to the thread. Max... Excellent observation. Recall the effort to hunt for the 'DC Snipers'? |
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