Wake Up People! HOT lanes

And I have a couple of questions on it if anyone knows the answers

Once a car enters the HOT lane and it shows a toll, is that the toll he pays all the way until the end or until he exits? I'll bet 75 percent of the cars entering the HOT lane will do so around Dale City/Woodbridge. This is what I mean about dynamic tolling not going to work because everyone will be in the HOT lane with their rate already fixed.

If one enters the HOT at a high toll rate such as 1.00 per mile, can one then take the next exit and re-enter at a lower rate? I expect this would be true, but couldnt it cause a lot of exiting an re-entering?

After last night presentation of HOT lane management I am here to tell you this is not just a Monday to Friday commuter problem. It affects all of us down the I-95 Corridor ¡V 56 miles worth of lanes.

Here¡¦s the deal.
ć VDOT has two proposals from the private sector it is considering.
ć The bottom line of both has the company manage (operate and maintain) the HOV lanes currently in existence while building new HOT lanes too.
ć These lanes would be active 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
ć HOV-3 is Free.
ć Non HOV-3 pays toll via a transponder.
ć The toll fees will change depending on the volume of use and the time of the day.
ć The 56 miles of road will be broken down into either 3 or 2 segments depending on the vendor but these details were very vague at the October 11th meeting.
ć The Commonwealth Transportation Board does have the ability to raise the HOV-3 to HOV-4.
ć Access to the lanes will stop if performance on the lanes falls below a certain point.

One point among many to make clear is this ¡V If there is an accident in the regular lanes the HOT lanes will not open up for free. Usage will pick up and as demand picks up so does the toll. The vendors were asked about a major accident that would shut down the regular lanes and the vendors said they could discuss that issue in the final contract.

Points of concern and unanswered questions with the HOT lanes from the October 11 meeting.

ƒá Are the HOT lanes in effect 24/7? ¡V 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
ć Is HOV-3 free only during the HOV hours? M-F 6-9 AM in the morning and 3:30 to 6 PM in the evenings.
ƒá Will HOV-3 Free extend past the current Rt 234 HOV lanes? IE ¡V down to Stafford and Spotsylvania
ć What is the maximum toll in any given segment before the lanes are shut down to access?
ć What is the minimum toll one could expect to pay for the entire trip of 56 miles in a morning commute?
ć What is the maximum toll one could expect to pay for the entire trip of 56 miles in a morning commute?
ć Will the variable pricing only be in affect during rush hour or will it be in affect on weekends too? E.g. Summer Saturdays.
ć How are the profits split between the vendor and Virginia? Does the revenue stay in Northern Virginia?
ƒá Will the current HOV lanes be a toll road on Saturday, Sunday, holidays and week nights? IE ¡V Will the current HOV lanes always be toll lanes outside of the HOV-3 free M-F hours? Will the current HOV lanes always (24/7) be a toll lane for single and double riders.

If yes, considerations for citizens:
ƒá Driving to the DCA airport ¡V Toll
ƒá Saturday summer traffic ¡V toll
ć Will EZ pass work on these roads? Major US corridor especially in the summer?
ć Currently the HOV lanes relieve some congestion on weekends for the regular lanes traveling in the same direction of the HOV lanes. This relief will be gone or at least folks will be paying a toll to use the HOV lane.

"THERE ONCE WAS A DREAM THAT WAS ROME - THIS IS NOT IT!" - GLADIATOR

Last night HOT Lanes meeting in Fairfax was fascinating. Where was everyone!? I’m not just talking about the sluggers – No – I’m talking about the single drivers too. These proposals affect (and will effect) 56 miles of road from the DC line down to wherever. This is not building a useless parking lot at the corner of 123 and 95 that nobody uses and so your response is “Well I guess VDOT screwed up again.” No – this is going to have a direct impact not only on our commutes but on the price of real estate in the region. These presentations given last night should have been given at Garfield High school in the gym on a Saturday morning for the public to view and question. We are spending $1 Billion dollars. This project is so huge that it should be a ballot initiative for the voters in the area affected by it to vote on.

NOVEMBER 1ST TUESDAY IS THE FINAL MEETING IN SPRINGFIELD SOMEWHERE FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD TO MAKE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO VDOT ON THE PROPOSALS. BE THERE!!