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    Posted: 30 Nov 2005 at 10:00am
Who pays to ride? Not me.
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Ok, I stand corrected - I didn't get through reading all before me. I can understand the problem with the SMARTTAG - if they have it, no one could verify the number in the car. Sadly, we would need manned booths....hmmm....
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Ok, perhaps I'm slow - but couldn't we attempt to make everyone at least semi-happy? If they put in HOT lanes, couldn't they charge those that are driving with 1 or 2 people in the car and let those with the HOV 3 minimum go for free?

And as far as the Hybrids - couldn't they make it HOV 2 for them when the current exception expires in 2006? That way, we get more riders picked up and they still get "something" in return?

Just some thoughts - plese let me know if I'm missing something or why these ideas wouldn't work?
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And with responses like this, it's no wonder the hybrids like to drive alone. As a driver, there are many disadvantages to taking slugs.

You worry about their comfort and turn on the AC when you would normally roll down the windows
You can't comfortably listen to your own radio station at a nice volume
People think it's OK to wear perfume in enclosed spaces--like someone elses car
People smell bad
People think its ok to eat or drink in your car, despite "slug rules" that forbid this.
People think it is ok to spill a coke on the floor.
People chew loud food like nuts that also stink.
Some people go on and on about inane crap.
People leave trash in your car
People read their newspaper and block the sideview mirror
People listen to their ipods/other devices on full volume and entertain the entire car while going deaf
The snoring can become very annoying
The Nail filers are pretty annoying

To sum up--the slugs create an environment that makes the ride home much less enjoyable.

I can see why other drivers would be jealous of the hybrid drivers, but the slugs--well, not sure there is much room for complaint cause they are getting to town much quicker than walking.

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Originally posted by SuzAnne
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Originally posted by SpongeBob
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I think Defender and Baz are right.




I am glad to see someone pick up the stank of this topic. I would expect RLD to lead the charge but I believe the hospital has no patient-internet access.

Poor boy!



Sue! Hospital?
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BillyBS: it will not be political suicide if it "appears" to open up more lanes for all the non-carpoolers, and if the press says it is a good thing.

They can spin it very easily, especially considering how expensive the ride will be, to wit:

"Why should those carpoolers get a totally free ride? Don't they take advantage of a system they don't pay to maintain? It is not fair to me just because I work in Seven Corners (DelRay, Old Town, Georgetown, etc.) and cannot carpool that I have to pay $40 and they don't pay anything."

It is not a hard political nut to sell. People are mostly greedy and selfish.

(I forgot to add that sponges, on the other hand, are one of nature's most noble creatures: never greedy and never selfish. Hey, we just are, that's all. [8D])
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[br]"Correct me if I'm wrong, but..."

OK. Sorry, but you're wrong. There is no way to verify 3 occupants in a vehicle except with the human eye. Fluor/Transurban's plan calls for only remote monitoring of traffic flow so they can set rates for each segment to reduce congestion.

How can the Smarttag gantry tell if you have 3 people or just 2 in your minivan? It can't.

So how can the Smarttag gantry not charge you? It can't.

And how can it charge you a different price? It can't.

In other words, because there is no technical means of determining the number of occupants in a vehicle, all vehicles in a multiple access/exit tolling system must be charged the same amount.

This is the heart of the problem.



If what you are saying is everyone pays including car pools then you are wrong because it would be political suicide for any governor or state assemblyman to piss off that many car pooling voters. Not going to happen.

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Originally posted by SpongeBob
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I think Defender and Baz are right.




I am glad to see someone pick up the stank of this topic. I would expect RLD to lead the charge but I believe the hospital has no patient-internet access.

Poor boy!
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Here's a better assignment: count the people. And then count the number of cars in Horner Road lot as you pass it.

If people need to commute on I95 and are unwilling to rideshare, they get what they deserve. NoSUV can weep for their travails, but they have built their barn door and now have to sleep on it. (Do I have that right?)
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Originally posted by lvalleburke
[br]What was the assignment again?


Count how many cars in the regular lanes that you pass. A minute might be too hard since there are so many - perhaps 6,10, or 12 seconds.
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