Disadvantages of slugging

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but..."

OK. Sorry, but you're wrong. There is no way to verify 3 occupants in a vehicle except with the human eye. Fluor/Transurban's plan calls for only remote monitoring of traffic flow so they can set rates for each segment to reduce congestion.

How can the Smarttag gantry tell if you have 3 people or just 2 in your minivan? It can't.

So how can the Smarttag gantry not charge you? It can't.

And how can it charge you a different price? It can't.

In other words, because there is no technical means of determining the number of occupants in a vehicle, all vehicles in a multiple access/exit tolling system must be charged the same amount.

This is the heart of the problem.

What was the assignment again?

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Originally posted by NoSUV
[br]OK, 1 driver so far has claimed that the express lanes during commuting hours only pass about 10 cars in a minute in the regular lanes. Doesn't quite match what I've seen, but I'm sure others have data that will support you.

Or not.

It's not the hybrids - it's the overall congestion. Thank goodness for the tolls so we can buy our way out. As Sponge has noted, tolls likely spell the end for slugs. I wonder if there will be any regrets about damning the exemption then?

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Say that after you're paying an extra $40/day to drive your POS Hybrid on HOT. You're not going do away with slugging anytime soon.

Why are you all debating NoSUV? Is there even the slightest, teensiest, eensiest possibility that you are going to change his mind?

Unless you offer him a bribe. He has revealed himself to be all about himself. Offer NoSUV a mirror in which to admire his noble, self-absorbed profile while he putters alone in his pseudo-environmental, makes-me-feel-good high-bred.

I think Defender and Baz are right: the person who started this thread is a troll or, more likely, a regular trying to stir things up.

As if a journalism professor would ask a student to write a paper with a pre-determined negative slant. The assignment would be to write about the pros and the cons of a system.

What do we look like, idiots? (Hey, cut that out!)

NoCLUV,
It doesn't work that way. Imagine 10,000 less HOV-1 hybrids replaced by 10,000 HOV-3 cars. The traffic would improve in the main lanes, and you'd have nothing to talk about other than the "logical step to bus only lanes"...