Delegegates Betray Us - Extend Hybrids

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Originally posted by Luddite
[br]Sparky,
"Not principally for the HOV benefit." Right. Give it a rest already. We (HOV3) don't believe it.

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Ah, yes - but the rest of the world does! Is ignorance really bliss?

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Originally posted by mroyal
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Originally posted by MDC
[br]Luddite,
You're wrong in your assessment. SOV hybrids don't deal with parking, slug lines, drop-offs, or any of the normal carpool or slug activites. They can save 10, 20, or more minutes each way by taking the shortest route and not dealing with any of that. Even under optimal slugging conditions with no waiting in line, you'll never have as short a commute as the SOV hybrids.

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So why would any hybrid driver, in their right mind, even consider picking up slugs? For the good of mankind? Yea, right. Does that make them selfish? Take another look at the regular lanes filled with people who have no choice but to drive SOV, you selfish HOV driver/passenger. There is no slug line to Tysons Corner.

As I said over a year ago. We are all just looking for the most efficient and economical way of commuting.
I do agree with your point that those of us who bought hybrids (mine is a 2003)knew it would probably expire in 2006. Anything beyound that is just a bonus.
(as you know, but others may not, I'm an AM slugger - wife drives the hybrid SOV inbound and with me as passenger outbound)

Kindest Regards,

mroyal

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Thank you for stating this. I bought my hybrid because I care about gas mileage and the environment, and not principally for the HOV benefit. BTW, here's another incentive, the latest report by Consumer Reports, that places the Prius squarely in the "reliable" category:

Toyota Prius
For the third year, this $23,000 gasoline/electric hybrid is our pick, thanks to its excellent 44-mpg overall fuel economy. It is certified by the California Air Resources Board as a near-zero-emission vehicle. With a roomy interior, reasonable performance, and the versatility of a hatchback, the Prius is a good alternative to a midsized sedan.

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Originally posted by NoSUV
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Originally posted by raymond
[br]Bottom line is that ANY single occupant, fossil fuel vehicle is part of the problem, not part of the solution. ... Until then, hybrids are a scam, and SOV hybrids do not belong in the HOV lanes.

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Why isn't the bottom line that ANY non-public transportation solution for commuting is part of the problem? Why do you stop short? The scam is the selfish slug community, unwilling to use public transportation in favor of a free ride.

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I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm a former slugger, public transportation user and a current hybrid owner; the only reason I do not pick up slugs is because I commute from Arlington to Silver Spring--I have gone through Commuter Connections for three years straight with no success in finding people to pick up or to ride with. Stopping to drop people off in DC will not work for me; I take the Beltway in to Montgomery County, and would be late for work. There is no established pick up point in Arlington that I know of, for that matter. To avoid causing congestion in the HOV lanes, I go into work on a later schedule, which means that HOV is over by the time I hit 395 to return home.

No one here seems to be considering the needs of those with suburb-to-suburb commutes.

sluDgE,
How do you explain why the 10th most populous state in the country has the second most amount of hybrids? All of the environmentalists here? California is the only state ahead of Virginia in number of hybrids on the road and it has five times our population.

Of course there are people that buy hybrids for reasons other than HOV, but don't disagree with someone stating an obvious truth for 95%+ of the hybrid buyers. It makes you look silly.

Look. People who buy hybrids in this area buy them only to ride HOV lanes without having two additional riders. Everyone knows this. Why cant hybrid owners just admit it? SOV Hybrids and violators will always be reviled by those of us who travel HOV3. Enough already with the phoney justifications.