Delegegates Betray Us - Extend Hybrids |
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N_or_S_bound
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All diesels can burn biodiesel. Rode in this morn in a Jetta TDI. Gets 50mpg (sound familiar?). Doesn't qualify for CF plates.
All cars can burn a mix of 85% petro/15% ethanol, but it's only distributed in select cities that have mandated it's usage. Why not nationally? Because we don't have a domestic energy policy to support our international policies. Many auto manufacturers already sell popular models that run on ethanol. Sold mostly as fleet vehicles. Costs about $4k more per vehicle. Better than the gas/elec combo that has a lot more cost to it than that. NoSb SOV because you can, HOV because you care! |
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NoSUV
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quote: Why isn't the bottom line that ANY non-public transportation solution for commuting is part of the problem? Why do you stop short? The scam is the selfish slug community, unwilling to use public transportation in favor of a free ride. |
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BTW, politicians vote for the laws that they are paid to vote for. And who do you think pays for favorable laws? Who do you think carries more weight in congress, us or the auto lobby? When the lobbists for petro fuel call Richmond, do you think there is a politician that would not take that call? What about you or I? Just because they support the exemption does not make it right!
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Bottom line is that ANY single occupant, fossil fuel vehicle is part of the problem, not part of the solution. As I have said before many times, hybrids are a stopgap solution, a bandaid, and a marketing ploy designed to distract us from the problem and perpetuate a revenue flow to the auto manufacturers. The problem is dependency on non-renewable fuel sources. The longer hybrids are touted as a solution (and supported by this exemption), the longer we waste money feeding the auto manufacturer's coffers and waste time not developing autos that run on renewable fuel. We need to invest in solution technologies! Not marketing scams designed to keep the auto and fuel companies in business. When they design a car that runs on biodiesel, methanol, ethanol, hydrogen, or any other renewable fuel, I'll but it! Until then, hybrids are a scam, and SOV hybrids do not belong in the HOV lanes.
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NoSUV
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duckdugger - the logical and reasonable extention of your question leads one to wonder why you aren't taking public transportation. After all, isn't HOV-40 better than HOV-3? What are YOU doing about going by bus?
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duckduffer
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[:(!][:(!][:(!]Man of Reason...or any other Hybrid owner for that manner.
Please tell me what HOV-2 is on I-95 or I-395? I only see HOV-3 signs, is there something I am missing here. What gives you the right to say that it is okay for you to add more cars to the road because you can afford $25,000 or so, on a commuting car? Do you know that doing over 55 you are as fuel efficient as a 4 cylinder gas engine? What about all the space you take up parking these cars once you get to where you are going? Cut down those tress; pave the National Mall so you can park them there. This way the tourist can see your wonderful Hybrids, instead of the trees, gardens and grass. Pave the land with more parking lots with concrete and asphalt. This is good for the environment. What is so wrong with using a Hybrid and riding with 3 or more people? The mentality of I have to drive by myself cause. I am selfish has to stop. We need to find ways to take cars off the road not add more. . Why do most of the hybrids on the road have 4 doors, when only 1 is used? What is the REASON! |
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NoSUV
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quote: The voters HAVE voted. Unlike California, where elected representatives abdicate their responsibilities, we voted for people and empowered them to represent our opinions. I polled all of the candidates asking for my vote on the hybrid exemption and intended to use that as a criteria for my vote. It didn't help since every one of them supported extention. |
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Beckie5
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I think that the voters should vote. Not voting in a poll, but vote to elect or not to elect the Hybrid allowance. I do not believe that Richmond is putting the interest of the voters first.
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Man of Reason
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quote: Great to hear that reasonable heads are prevailing in the VA Assembly...A compromise solution has always been the correct path for hybrids using the HOV lanes in VA....Ending legislation because it's been too successful??? that's bassackwards...also, too much congestion in the regular lanes....where would you put the additional cars?? I commute daily using a Civic Hybrid on the HOV lanes (after 7:30 in the am and before 5:00 in the pm, hov-2 and alone ) and continue to be struck by the assertion of sluggers, vanpoolers, etc.that the HOV lanes are overcrowded (some commuters on pro-slugging websites even claim, ridiculously so, that there's often more congestion in HOV vs. non-HOV...). If these people were being honest, they would tell you that with the exception of bottlenecks at two points in the HOV corridor (beginning at Edsell Rd. through the Springfield Interchange where ALL vehicles are allowed to enter HOV and the Eads St. exit at the Pentagon) traffic moves at a steady pace of 65+ miles an hour. If anything, I would contend that the HOV lanes along the I-95 corridor are underutilized given the extreme congestion problems experienced in non-HOV lanes. An article by "Dr. Gridlock" (Ron Shaffer) of the Washington Post echo's my sentiment and it seems the majority of users in HOV lanes; In the article he asked readers for their counts and opinions of hybrid vehicles in the HOV-3 lanes. The consensus among readers was that there is not a congestion problem outside of the bottlenecks mentioned above and that hybrids should continue to be allowed for this use...The following were some of the conclusions drawn and a link to the article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46042-2005Feb23.html Given the above, not to mention the fuel crisis we're in here in America, the move toward HOT lanes along I-95 and overall support of the hybrid exemption (see below), extending the exemption in one form or another is the only logical course of action..... Other Facts The Washington Post conducted a scientific survey of attitudes toward hybrids and the use of HOV lanes in VA. "In a recent Washington Post poll, 56 percent of Northern Virginians said single-person hybrid vehicles should be allowed to use carpool lanes, and 43 percent said they should not. Across the region, 53 percent said they should be allowed and 45 percent said they should not. To measure attitudes toward commuting, The Post interviewed 1,003 randomly selected adults in the Washington area Jan. 27 to 31." 2005 In addition, national polling favors hybrid use in HOV-lanes; MSNBC poll did poll similar to the Washington Post....70% support the hybrid exemption in HOV....1682 people were polled...(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54561-2005Jan6.html |
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James-G
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I am outraged that this would pass the Senate when it is so clear that hyprids are choking the HOV lanes. I have writen to my House Delegate strongly encouraging her to oppose this bill. I don't think it is too late for us to stop this. There are many more Sluggers, Carpoolers, and Bus riders than hyprid owners. James
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