Anti-hybrid road rage

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   MDC: I gather you will be leading the charge to reduce the hours of HOV use. Thanks! 

	BTW, no traffic in the express lanes on I-395 again yesterday afternoon, but backups in the regular lanes - of course, WITH the hybrid exemption in place. How much longer do you think it will take before VDOT and the legislature realize that the HOV hours need reduction?

	Also fascinating to see that the dire predictions about the horrors from exending the hybrid exemption have failed to materialize. Looks like the legislators got that one right!

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NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Apr 2006 at 7:40am
	MDC: I gather you will be leading the charge to reduce the hours of HOV use. Thanks! BTW, no traffic in the express lanes on I-395 again yesterday afternoon, but backups in the regular lanes - of course, WITH the hybrid exemption in place. How much longer do you think it will take before VDOT and the legislature realize that the HOV hours need reduction? Also fascinating to see that the dire predictions about the horrors from exending the hybrid exemption have failed to materialize. Looks like the legislators got that one right!

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Apr 2006 at 2:42pm
	I suggested reducing the time that special SOVs could legally be in HOV. Where are you going wrong?

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 2006 at 7:57am
	MDC: It appears as though you agreed that HOV hours should be reduced. Seems to be the most logical conclusion from your posts. Don't forget, they are NOT HOV lanes - they are express lanes. Use your fingers to figure out the number of hours the lanes are used for HOV, and then remove your socks and shoes to help you count the number of hours the lanes are not used for HOV. Rarely if ever do you name something after its minority use.

N_or_S_bound Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote N_or_S_bound Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 2006 at 10:37am
	NoSUV, You gotta suck this one up bud. http://www.virginiadot.org/comtravel/hov-default.asp#nova Probably more "authoritative" than either your or my or mdc's logic can withstand. NoSb SOV because you can, HOV because you care!

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2006 at 2:12pm
	NoSUV, Using your logic, there are no HOV restricted hours now...

CallmeMrSlug Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote CallmeMrSlug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2006 at 3:14pm
	I am not sure I understand the purpose in the exchanges with NoSUV. If you say the sky is blue, he will surely say the sky is red. If you say it might be gray, he will surely twist your words against you and say that proves the sky is red. If you said saying it might be gray did not mean its red, and he misunderstood you, he will say you agreed as a logical extension that his view of the world that the sky is red is correct. I mean what is the point? It don't matter that everyone in the world knows the sky is really blue, and sometimes gray during the winter, all that matters to him is that he THINKS it is red, and your opinion really will never change his opinion even if the facts do not support him. I guess I don't understand the purpose of engaging him when he clearly has no interest in the truth...

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2006 at 1:17pm
	CMMS: Are you saying you can't get your socks off to count the hours in the day? Is proportional math beyond you? Hope not!

MDC Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MDC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2006 at 2:37pm
	CallmeMrSlug, It serves a reinforcement purpose. NoSUV can keep digging as long as NoSUV wants. :p

Max_28756 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Location: Va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Max_28756 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 2006 at 2:24pm
	Once again, if the hybrid owners really believe they want to save the environment, they will travel in the regular lanes. Since hybrid technology is only effective in slow traffic (notice how their city mileage is higher than their highway mileage figures), they will be saving the environment and still remain SOV. Clear up the HOV lanes for us gas guzzlers with 3 or more passengers, thus saving fuel since we no longer will be stuck in the traffic caused by the ever increasing SOV hybrids.

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2006 at 7:31am
	Max - actually, I get worse mileage in stop and go traffic? Do you have a clue about that which you post?