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   Has the governor signed it?  There is still a glimmer of hope to get NoSUV out of the HOV lanes.

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scottt Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Slug Joined: 12 May 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 106	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 2007 at 9:53am
	Has the governor signed it? There is still a glimmer of hope to get NoSUV out of the HOV lanes.

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 2007 at 9:59am
	scottt - that would be political suicide, and contrary to Kaine's stated agenda. If he did not sign it, there is no way it wouldn't become law anyway because there are way too few votes to support a veto (like none). However, I do agree that we need to find a way to get all SUVs out of the HOV lanes unless they are SULEV.

scottt Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Slug Joined: 12 May 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 106	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 2007 at 8:51am
	quote: Originally posted by NoSUV [br]scottt - that would be political suicide, and contrary to Kaine's stated agenda. If he did not sign it, there is no way it wouldn't become law anyway because there are way too few votes to support a veto (like none). However, I do agree that we need to find a way to get all SUVs out of the HOV lanes unless they are SULEV. I have to wonder if you actually have a brain. I said that there was a glimer of hope to get YOU out of the HOV lanes.

n/a Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote n/a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar 2007 at 1:20pm
	quote: Originally posted by NoSUV [br]scottt - that would be political suicide, and contrary to Kaine's stated agenda. If he did not sign it, there is no way it wouldn't become law anyway because there are way too few votes to support a veto (like none). However, I do agree that we need to find a way to get all SUVs out of the HOV lanes unless they are SULEV. I'm thinking about buying a hybrid SUV. Not because I have any illusions about saving the environment or anything like that, nor to try to win any points with psuedo-eco hybrid drivers like NoSUV. But because I want to save some money on gas and the Ford Escape hybrids I'm looking at gets better gas milage than the non-hybrid equivalent. Does anyone know if it will be compatible with the new blends of ethanol gas out there? I know GM cars and trucks are, buthow about the Ford?

scottt Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Slug Joined: 12 May 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 106	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Mar 2007 at 9:44am
	Raymond, how many miles per year do you drive?

n/a Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote n/a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Mar 2007 at 11:32am
	Only about 6 - 8,000 miles per year, now that I slug to work! BTW, I'm thinking about changing my screen name to YeSUV!

Luddite Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Luddite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Mar 2007 at 8:29pm
	Raymond, Don't joke about things like that. Hybrids Killed HOV

scottt Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Slug Joined: 12 May 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 106	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2007 at 8:07am
	quote: Originally posted by raymond [br]Only about 6 - 8,000 miles per year, now that I slug to work! BTW, I'm thinking about changing my screen name to YeSUV! At that rate, the premium you pay for a Hybrid would take a decade or so to pay for itself.

scottt Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Slug Joined: 12 May 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 106	Post Options Post Reply Quote scottt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2007 at 8:09am
	quote: Originally posted by Luddite [br]Raymond, Don't joke about things like that. Hybrids Killed HOV He wouldn't be able to SOV in the HOV lanes. His purchase would be past the cutoff date (last year).

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Mar 2007 at 11:31am
	raymond - payback depends on price of gas and mileage. At one time, I figured it to be at 75K miles based on $2.50/gal to break even, or roughly 4 years. Recommend you compare the non-hybrid vs. the hybrid, assume a gas price (like $3/gal), use the EPA figures (which are wrong, but at least the data is consistently wrong) and figure your break even point on miles. You know about how much you drive per year, and you can estimate your break even. I wish it wasn't about the money, but about people caring for what they are doing to the environment. I have to wonder about those who hate hybrids - are they the same ones who throw their cigerette butts out their windows?