VA Senate Bill to Expand Tolling Authority

What's not going away - the SPAM? That's too obvious given the enormous amounts of it on this site the last 6 months...

Seriously though, you're right; the toll issue isn't going away. What else isn't going away is the stupidity shown by lawmakers in acquiescing to the whole notion that tolls are the way to go.

But what do they (and their minions and their base) care? Most of those numbnuts don't live here, nor do they have to commute or drive in this area.

Whatever happened to the Regional view of things? Virginia seems to be oblivious to the impact its' decisions have on DC, MD, and its own NoVA residents.

'cept of course in granting exemptions to the so called "green" class while accepting other states trash.

Anyone know where the Secession movement stands these days?

bumped up again

What? You are making even less sense than usual, NoSUV.
You cannot really be so stupid as to be suggesting that only parents should pay for schools... or are you flipping to the other side of the argument? You said only users should pay for roads, and I'm saying you are an idiot because if you apply that standard to other government-overseen things like schools, you see that it does not make logical sense. Now you are talking about bonds when the subject was taxes. No one, not even you, could be so retarded as to say that taxes should not support schools, nor that only those with kids in school should pay school taxes.

So Gettysburg and Antietam should be private parks? And Yellowstone should be sold to the highest bidder? My point isn't that there are no private parks, it is that some things are held to be of such value to all in society that we ask our government to handle them. Things like Gettysburg and Yellowstone.

And yes, there are per-axle tolls, but my point, which you ignored or missed as usual, was about the definition of the word "user". A two-axle trash truck weighing 10 tons "uses" the road a lot more than a Honda Civic carrying one person. How are you going to equitably charge them? And should business users of the road pay more or less than pleasure users of the road? A motorcycle club on a Sunday ride vs a fleet of panel vans? Oh yeah, equitable isn't in your vocabulary.

Finally, there are many accidents that tie up traffic that do not result in a citation. The citation, moreover, is not related in any way to the traffic flow on the road, but is a punitive measure.

Really, we've all got better things to do than argue with you.

Sponge - my, you've hit the nail on the head! Have you noticed that education bonds have a tough time passing because there is a higher percentage of voters without school age children than those with? That private parks DO exist with only visitors paying for them? On the weight question, have you notices that toll booths charge a different price for each axle? And have you noticed that in many cases, when there is an accident and the police arrive, a citation is issued - which costs the offender money?

Note that in the general comment area that the toll breakdown in at least one bill is 75% for that jurisdiction - proving, once again, that raymond's posts are idiodic.

And I was just going to add that X percent of HOT tolls not only will go out of state, but out of the country. Crock. Whatever toll revenues are generated should stay in VA/US.