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NoSUV
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How is carpooling better than using mass transit?
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RetiredMarine
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How does having single riding Hybrids help reduce traffic?
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smithma
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Originally posted by NoSUV |
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NoSUV
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Actually, it is a FAR bigger help to the "system" than slugging - unless you narrowly define the system as slugging.
If slugging were eliminated while allowing hybrids to use the express lanes during peak commuting hours: - slugs would probably have to use buses - there would be less congestion (HOV-33 is better than HOV-3) - the air would be cleaner - fuel consumption would lower - gas prices would be lower - the economy would improve (just like cash for clunkers, but with no taxpayer subsidy) THAT'S why the grandfathered expemption always passes with a HUGE majority - it just makes sense! |
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RetiredMarine
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The sad part is this doesn't help the system it hurts the system. We need to remove the exemption.
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HOVME
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HB 1432 overwhelmingly passed the House by 90 to 8 January 31, 2011. Its companion Senate bill is in Committee with a positive impact statement. Last year the Senate unanimously passed the hybrid exemption by 40 to 0. Odds seem quite high the exemption will be extended through June 30, 2012.
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NoSUV
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I've discussed this many times with both my delegate and my state senator. Both have indicated that there is as much chance for the exemption NOT to pass as there is for a sensible and progressive measure to end the HOV exemption and turn the lanes back into what they first were - express lanes for buses only. Even when I point out that getting rid of HOV and only exempting hybrids would lead to a boost in the economy similar to the taxpayer subsidized "cash for clunkers", cleans up the environment by 30%, improves fuel consumption and lessons the demand for foreign oil, and provides a sustainable source of revenue for transportation with the bus fees.
Anyone remember the transportation funding issues of the early 1970s? Seems like turning the express lanes into HOV became Virginia's equivalent to California's Proposition 13 - really good in the short term but a complete mess a few decades later. |
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smithma
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Found the voting history for last years bill that extended it to 2011.
ALBO voted for the extension! HB 214 HOV lanes; extends date for use by vehicle with clean special fuel license plates. floor: 01/26/10 House: VOTE: --- PASSAGE (78-Y 17-N) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- YEAS--Abbitt, Albo, Alexander, Armstrong, Athey, Bell, Richard P., Bell, Robert B., Brink, Bulova, Byron, Carrico, Cleaveland, Cline, Comstock, Cosgrove, Cox, J.A., Cox, M.K., Crockett-Stark, Dance, Ebbin, Edmunds, Englin, Greason, Griffith, Herring, Hope, Howell, A.T., Hugo, Iaquinto, Ingram, James, Janis, Johnson, Jones, Keam, Kilgore, Knight, Landes, LeMunyon, Lewis, Lohr, Loupassi, Marshall, D.W., Marshall, R.G., Massie, May, McClellan, Merricks, Miller, J.H., Miller, P.J., Morefield, Morgan, Nutter, O'Bannon, Oder, Orrock, Peace, Phillips, Plum, Pogge, Pollard, Putney, Rust, Scott, E.T., Scott, J.M., Sherwood, Shuler, Sickles, Stolle, Surovell, Tata, Toscano, Tyler, Ward, Ware, O., Ware, R.L., Watts, Wright--78. NAYS--BaCote, Barlow, Carr, Cole, Garrett, Gear, Gilbert, Joannou, Lingamfelter, McQuinn, Morrissey, Nixon, Poindexter, Purkey, Spruill, Villanueva, Mr. Speaker--17. ABSTENTIONS--0. NOT VOTING--Abbott, Anderson, Kory, Torian--4. Delegate Howell, W.J. recorded as nay. Intended to vote yea. |
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Jody
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Over the years I've emailed Dave Albo about opposing the exemption and have gotten the same non-committal response. Corey Stewart has been an advocate for the slug system. Albo; not so much.
The VA legislature will not drop the hybrid exemption until the HOT lanes are built on 395. Because SOVs will buy their way onto the HOT lanes, the hybrid exemption will be difficult to justify if SOVs are paying and hybrid drivers are not. The HOT lanes will not be moving at 65 MPH (Flour/Transurban has already admitted they will not be able to maintain the speed limit on HOV with the influx of SOV drivers). Hybrid drivers will, however, have the same option as other drivers - have 3 people in their car and they will not be charged the toll. |
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smithma
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Here's the response I got from Dave Albo:
"Thank you for writing in opposition to an extension of the HOV Clean Fuel Plate Exemption. Del. Thomas Greason has introduced HB 1432, which is officially summarized: HOV lanes; use by vehicle with clean special fuel license plates. Extends until July 1, 2012, the sunset on use of HOV lanes by clean special fuel vehicles, regardless of the number of occupants. This bill is currently awaiting a hearing in the Committee on Transportation. Because I do not serve on that committee, I will not be able to affect the bill’s progress unless it reaches the floor of the House of Delegates. However, if it does so, you may be sure that I will take your views into consideration. If you would like to track the progress of HB 1432, or any other bill, you may do so through my website, www.davealbo.com. Just click “Track Legislation” and type in the bill number. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to write. I always enjoy hearing from my constituents, so if you have any more comments, questions, or concerns, I encourage you to contact me again." |
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