HOV cheaters or just a lot of real HOV? |
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Tupe
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It sounds like the best way to me. It has been suggested numerous timesb the question is why the state police don't implement something that sounds so sensible.
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Mancilla
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The only solution I see to this problem is that the cops should position themselves in the HOV entrances, that way the cheaters
will be forced to not enter the express lane. They will not have to patrol along the express lane anymore and will keep it clean from cheaters. How's that sound? |
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elama
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I've never understood why the cops don't position themselves at trouble areas and do a clean sweep and give everyone a ticket. At certain areas out in the suburbs, if there are, say, 3 traffic violators, the cops (who are standing outside their cars at trouble spots) point and wave each person over to the shoulder instead of staying in their car and pulling one person over at a time. One cop's job is solely to "point and wave," so everyone is caught.
On the HOV lane, of course, you could have quite a few cars pulled over at one time, waiting their turn to have a ticket written, and some people may complain that it would slow the traffic in the HOV lane, but that would only be temporary. Once the word got out, I believe the drop in cheaters would be drastic. Together with the ticket and the wait to get the ticket - yeah - double whammy for the cheaters. Near the Lakeridge entrance onto the HOV, often you will see a couple cops standing outside their cars and doing a version of this, but they don't have a cop who is only waving people over. They may have two cops pulling people over, but those same two cops are only pulling a few over at a time and while they are writing the tickets, calling in license #s, etc., a mess more violators are whizzing by. |
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USA
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quote:They do this around the Pentagon near 6:00 PM too, waiting for the HOV hours to expire. As soon as you take the left split at the Potomac Park exit in DC, you start seeing cars on the shoulder as early as 5:35. I've seen cops ticket these people occasionally, but not very often. It's extremely dangerous, especially because they think they're entitled to be let into traffic when 5:55 rolls around. They will pull out in front of you and slam on the accelerator in a mad rush to beat everyone else into the express lanes before the flood comes. It's kind of absurd when you consider that no cop is going to pull over a violator between the Pentagon and Shirlington at 5:55. |
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jjmahoney
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As I brought up in a previous thread, the traffic in HOV has been horrendous the past few weeks! This week in particular (except for Monday). Two accidents in the past two days have had me sitting in traffic for 30+ extra minutes. In both cases the accident was cleared before I got to it. My question is, are these accidents caused by cheaters and their "hiding" or "slow driving" tactics to keep from getting caught? I'm all for the Hybrid cars on there. If I had one, I'd take advantage of that too. But I'd just like to know who is screwing traffic for us normal HOV'ers. When my commute time is doubled two days in a row, I get very upset. If I wanted to sit in 2 hours of traffic, I'd just drive alone in the main lines! "My therapist says you're always making withdrawls from my Self-Esteem account to fill your Ego Balloon!" Gabe - Penny-Arcade.com |
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dkerley
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You know why they are driving slow is because the cheaters are trying to "hide" amongst us non-cheaters. Picking up slugs has become difficult for me over the past couple of years but I still do it. There are times when I think to myself "Why am I waiting 30 minutes for riders when I could get in the HOV lanes with just a slight chance of getting caught? Especially since I have close to limo tint?"
I think some of cheaters that are "hiding" amongst us are unsafe as well as slow. quote: Dina |
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Telser
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When they are driving slow between Edsall Rd. and Springfield (where they let less than 3 people in a car get on the HOV lane as long as they get off on the last Springfield exit) close to the 6pm hour, they are trying to time it so that they aren't too much before 6pm when they reach that last Springfield exit so that they can stay on the HOV lane. They are a pain in the neck because they slow everyone down. I've even seen them pull over and stop on the shoulder, especially if they see a cop car's lights ahead. When they all start pulling out into the lanes from the shoulders about 6pm, it is not only annoying, but dangerous. If they are doing this elsewhere, I don't know the reason. As far as earlier times, the instances that I have noticed is when they spot a cop car ahead, they tend to put on the brakes and start crawling along.
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mycroftt
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quote: Nope. Virginia code section 33.1-46.2.B paragraph 6 states, in pertinent part, "Upon a conviction under this section, the court shall furnish to the Commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles in accordance with § 46.2-383 an abstract of the record of such conviction which shall become a part of the person's driving record. Notwithstanding the provisions of § 46.2-492, no driver demerit points shall be assessed for any violation of this section." The referenced section 46.2-492 makes mention of the three points for highway sign violation so it looks like they made a change at some time since the '80's and specifically eliminated the points for HOV violation. Bad move, IMHO. Mike |
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MISS "T"
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There are quite a few cheaters on the express lanes between 5:00 and 6:00 p.m. and they are very annoying [:(!],driving 30 miles per hours,I don't get that, what makes them think driving slow will not bring attention to them violating?[:0]
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MDC
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You do get points for HOV violations, at least you did in the '80s. The infraction is "highway sign violation" and carries 3 points from my recollection.
Other than the people who cheat on the cutoff times, there really aren't that many cheaters other than the ones that continue past Springfield to get off at the "FSP". Other cheaters that annoy me are "hybrids" with out of state tags which are specifically not allowed in the law. I guess they get a pass since I see the same ones are there frequently. |
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