Split Horner AM 14th St/ Navy Yard-L'Enfant line

I both am a slug at times and a driver the majority of times. I believe in options and leaving the lines together gives me as both a slug and driver the best available options. I can choose which place to go depending on what comes up first. If I'm driving I can choose a different location if there's no one at the first one I call out. By having all 3 at the same line, both slugs and drivers have more choices. For me, my 2 interchangeable locations are 14th and L'enfant. By splitting those two, you take away my options.

I just received a email notification of the "voting" results. The following is quoted from the opening paragraph of Denny Palmer's email:

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"The voting period has ended and thanks goes out to all that participated. The final results are 87 in favor of a split, 23 opposed, and 17 that signed up to vote but never cast their vote."

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Of the hundreds and hundreds who use this line daily, Only 87 voted to make the move. Given GeorgeML comment above about the confusion as to what a person was actually voting for, it is quite possible that many of the "yes" votes were accidental.

Yet Mr. Palmer sees this has license to order and implement the split. Good luck all. I am out of the morning slug pick-up business the day it is implemented.

Slug-Line.com webmaster, please send out a general notice to all registered Slug-Lines.com users when these two line eventually merge back together again, as they inevitably will. I may begin picking up again then.

MoxieMom

I have definitely been around WAY TOO LONG. Various forms of splitting these destinations were tried when the original lines were created at the time the "Horner" Road lot was expanded and have arisen from time to time since then. These three destinations always gravitate back together.

This is why: If there are no drivers for Navy Yard later in the morning, Navy Yard Slugs have, and often times use, the option of hopping in with a L'Enfant driver. A slug looking for L'Enfant later in the morning has the option of hopping in with a 14th Street Driver, if no L'Enfant drivers are coming through. A slug looking for a 14th street driver has the option of hopping in with a L'Enfant Driver if no 14th Street drivers are coming their way. Vice versa is true for the drivers in terms of who they snatch. It is all about having options for the slugs as well as the drivers. That is why these three destinations are, and always will be, inextricably connected.

The line moves okay during the early morning hours when slugs and cars are plentiful. It is the later (if you can believe the 7:00 a.m. is "later") hours the will forever link these three destinations. This is a force of nature people. Stop trying to engineer Mother Nature.

Lastly, if what GeorgeML posted above on 23 Jan 2011 at 22:13:03 is true; then shame on you - whoever initiated this. S-can the vote.


MoxieMom

PDenny
My point is if you are going to have a vote then capture the options that were presented in various posts to the Blog. To merely restate the issue as origionally imposed is not a proper vote giving people a choice of what they may want.

George if you are going to call someone out please have your facts straight first. From the time the line was merged back together on Dec 6th there have been 35 posts, some for and some against. As I stated the e-vite was created as a vehicle to put to rest whether or not to split the lines. That's all. No one else was coming up with a possible solution. Whoever created the split in early Dec originally had it as (line #1 (14th), line #2 L'E/WNY). I did not change that. All I recommended was to move one of the lines to a safer location; a sidewalk.

As for my misleading anyone, you need to reread the e-vite that clearly states This evite is being used to cast a vote to split the slug-line (14th/L'Enfant/Navy Yard). The proposed split will be for 14th Street riders/drivers (r/d) to use the section of the main road west of the 18th street location (same side of the street, other side of entrance to parking lot. The L'Enfant/Navy Yard will remain at the current location. Coming in from Telegraph road, it would then be parking lot entrance, 14th, parking lot entrance, 18th, Bus stops, parking lot entrance, L'Enfant/Navy Yard. A yes "I'm attending" is a vote for the split as proposed. A no "I'm not attending" is a vote to keep the line the way it is. I NEVER once claimed that a yes vote would take you to an actual event that you could make some other vote. If you had some other better way of trying to find closure with this then why didn't you step up? There were 43 days that passed from the time the lines were merged back together to the time the e-vite was created. One Jan 13th (38 days from the remerge) someone ask “if anyone was working on a plan”.

Remember one thing there is no perfect solution to this issue of success we have with slugging. Leave the line together as it is and some will complain. Separate the lines and some will complain. Heck I wasn’t sure how to group Independence riders and drivers. What seemed to make sense is to keep them with 14th St since a driver can pick up a 14th only rider or an actual Independence rider. Again there is not a one solution fits all with this issue. At least by having this e-vite vote, to date 42 people (39 in favor / 9 against) have been able to have some kind of say with 26 more left to weigh in. That sir is democracy by definition: social equality.

Now that I've had a chance to defend myself, what would you suggest to solve the problem since it appears we have one with this line? Its one thing to complain it's another thing to attempt to fix....