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    Posted: 14 Jan 2004 at 10:09am
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Hold up, everyone. Bowflexguy has a great idea!! I've started the "move-my-butt-to-the-city" fund and am accepting all donations. I take cash, check, all major credit cards and even livestock. So whatdya say, Bowflexguy? Got any extra chump change to throw down my way? [}:)]

BTW-Inner-city traffic stinks, too. The entire 50-mile radius reeks of horrible traffic. Going nowhere on Constitution would be just as crappy as sitting on I-95. Actually, worse, maybe. Because you're so close, yet so far away...

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Well, bowflexguy, I have done my little part to make the traffic situation better by slugging, driving carpools and riding buses and trains for the past 10 years. If more people did those things, then I-95 wouldn't look like such a parking lot. I also have written letters to my representatives in Richmond about traffic issues and the relationship that unchecked growth has to increasing traffic problems.

And gee, thanks for the tip that moving into the city would lessen my commute. Why didn't I think of that before? Oh I know, maybe because all of us can't afford to live closer into the city. Maybe because the closer-in areas I could afford have crime problems I prefer not to expose my family too. You're right, I made a choice living where I did, but the choice was made to minimize the impact of the commute by living close to the HOV lanes and using them to get into work. At that time, only carpools and buses were allowed in them and they represented a good way to get to work from areas that offered affordable housing. So, I believe my concern about the rules changing and single drivers in Hybrids (or those who pay a toll if VA passes that) being allowed in the lanes is understandable when this change in rules negatively impacts the commute I thought I had signed on for.

You can chime in on anything you want but please remember that this is a very diverse group and solutions that may seem like a no-brainer to you, i.e., move to the city, actually may be rife with problems for other families.
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Sorry Connie it was not a personal attack, just an observation [:)] Sorry I haven't chimmed in on issues that you feel need something to be mentioned. I didn't know my insight was that important [}:)], I too am expressing my opinions & picking the time and choicing of my responses (did I just sound like Bush?)[:0]

I would also say that I am not promoting anything here. All I can say is traffic isn't bad when you move into the city. There's a choice you make rural living = bad traffic. What have you done to make the traffic situation better? Do you think Richmond cares about Northern VA?

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[br]Wow, how refreshing to log in and find someone attacking a message I wrote at least a month ago. And further enlightening that the poster has only been posting since January 8 and all his other posts have been promotions for his Prius.

I wasn't aware I was "crying" by expressing concerns about an something that affects the quality of life for us all. In fact, I was expressing an opinion similar to others on this board, yet you chose to single me out by name and aim your sarcastic remarks at me. So far, the sum total of your posts have been to promote your Prius and criticize someone who expressed concerns about increasing traffic in the HOV lane. What exactly are you doing on this board since you have yet to actually discuss slugging?

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[br]Connie, looks like you made a mistake by moving out into the rural areas if all you want to do is beef about traffic. How about moving in closer and stop crying about traffic? What's next HOV-8? Only buses???

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[br]This morning was another nightmare. At one point, we were stuck in the right lane behind cars getting off at the Pentagon. We looked over and were passed by 4 Hybrids in a row, followed by one 3-person car and then 2 more Hybrids. We pulled over into the left lane and proceeded to pass 5 Hybrids within the line of approximately 15 cars waiting to exit at the Pentagon. That's 11 in a small space in a small snapshot of time. [:0]

No Hybrids are not the whole problem as someone pointed out. They are part of the problem. But I don't believe that you ignore something that can be fixed just because it's only part of the problem. I have begun contacting my representatives in Richmond -- I figure I've complained long enough and there's no point in that if I'm not willing to take action. [:)] And I am raising other issues that affect the lanes - other single driver exemptions, continued unchecked growth, the need to perhaps look at increasing the hours for HOV. If you have opinions on what is causing the problems and how they might be solved, please let your voice be heard as well.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Connie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2004 at 3:18pm
Wow, how refreshing to log in and find someone attacking a message I wrote at least a month ago. And further enlightening that the poster has only been posting since January 8 and all his other posts have been promotions for his Prius.

I wasn't aware I was "crying" by expressing concerns about an something that affects the quality of life for us all. In fact, I was expressing an opinion similar to others on this board, yet you chose to single me out by name and aim your sarcastic remarks at me. So far, the sum total of your posts have been to promote your Prius and criticize someone who expressed concerns about increasing traffic in the HOV lane. What exactly are you doing on this board since you have yet to actually discuss slugging?

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[br]Connie, looks like you made a mistake by moving out into the rural areas if all you want to do is beef about traffic. How about moving in closer and stop crying about traffic? What's next HOV-8? Only buses???

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[br]This morning was another nightmare. At one point, we were stuck in the right lane behind cars getting off at the Pentagon. We looked over and were passed by 4 Hybrids in a row, followed by one 3-person car and then 2 more Hybrids. We pulled over into the left lane and proceeded to pass 5 Hybrids within the line of approximately 15 cars waiting to exit at the Pentagon. That's 11 in a small space in a small snapshot of time. [:0]

No Hybrids are not the whole problem as someone pointed out. They are part of the problem. But I don't believe that you ignore something that can be fixed just because it's only part of the problem. I have begun contacting my representatives in Richmond -- I figure I've complained long enough and there's no point in that if I'm not willing to take action. [:)] And I am raising other issues that affect the lanes - other single driver exemptions, continued unchecked growth, the need to perhaps look at increasing the hours for HOV. If you have opinions on what is causing the problems and how they might be solved, please let your voice be heard as well.



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[br]Good point belle....it is easy to take shots at people from behind the computer screen. A lot of the posts in this site are becomming a bit to personal on the attack side.



Use "too", not "to" in this case. Grammar slacker! [:o)]

Yes, do not type before you think. People tend to be offensive when posting Web messages. Lets save personal attacks for the Democratic primary! Sad, but true. :)
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Connie raises valid points and has every right to complain. There are multiple reasons for the increasing congestion in the HOV lanes and it is only going to get worse UNLESS certain actions are taken (for eg. extend HOV hours to encourage more car pooling, get the hybrids off because they do not reduce the # of vehicles). Afterall, HOVs initial purpose was to get MORE cars OFF the road. Providing exceptions and making it easier for the single drivers to use the HOV lanes (for eg. early HOV hours ending at 6pm and allowing single drivers to get on at Edsall PROMOTES single drivers and does not encourage carpooling). Connie's posts serves a purpose and additionally prompts me to write any and all state representatives to complain.
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Connie, looks like you made a mistake by moving out into the rural areas if all you want to do is beef about traffic. How about moving in closer and stop crying about traffic? What's next HOV-8? Only buses???

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[br]This morning was another nightmare. At one point, we were stuck in the right lane behind cars getting off at the Pentagon. We looked over and were passed by 4 Hybrids in a row, followed by one 3-person car and then 2 more Hybrids. We pulled over into the left lane and proceeded to pass 5 Hybrids within the line of approximately 15 cars waiting to exit at the Pentagon. That's 11 in a small space in a small snapshot of time. [:0]

No Hybrids are not the whole problem as someone pointed out. They are part of the problem. But I don't believe that you ignore something that can be fixed just because it's only part of the problem. I have begun contacting my representatives in Richmond -- I figure I've complained long enough and there's no point in that if I'm not willing to take action. [:)] And I am raising other issues that affect the lanes - other single driver exemptions, continued unchecked growth, the need to perhaps look at increasing the hours for HOV. If you have opinions on what is causing the problems and how they might be solved, please let your voice be heard as well.

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Your neighbor is correct. And since 395 merges onto 95 from the left, it's next to impossible (and very dangerous) to cut across several lanes of traffic in a short distance to exit at Springfield. So, till the system is improved, it is legal and advisable for drivers in the regular lanes to use the open portion of the HOV lanes to get off at Springfield.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tilmer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 2004 at 12:39pm
A neighbor told me that even though the HOV gets backed up between Edsall and Springfield, he says it is a nightmare at the Springfield/Franconia exit because the cars on the right (coming off the beltway) are merging to the left to continue south on I95 and the cars on the left are merging to the right exits for Springfield and Franconia.

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[br]My question would be.....Why would single drivers want to bypass the mixing bowl in the HOV lanes? Besides the wait just to get on the HOV after Edsall Rd., the traffic in the regular lanes is almost always faster than the HOV lanes during that stretch of the highway. I'm sure there must be another reason for singles to get on there.....wht is it?

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