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[br]A hybrid car is an electric and gas car that works off of both, so it's really fuel efficient.



. . .especially if more than one person are riding in it.

"Hybird" stated by the Goosewoman--could it mean anything else? Why do you even bother responding to her, Mroyal? Unless you are really her and you are trying to bring even more attention to her and her silly antics. GeeseareGood is fine for a little comic relief, if you don't take her seriously--but don't let her goad you. (and I will try not to be goaded too). The beer exception for Friday was a classic idea though.
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A hybrid car is an electric and gas car that works off of both, so it's really fuel efficient.
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Originally posted by GeeseAreGood
[br]A CFag is a hybird car, I could say with the CF plates, but not all have the CFag plate and seem to do just fine.

I think we should call the CFers CFags!



... and what is a hybird car?


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[br]What’s very irksome about allowing Hybrids in the HOV lanes is that from an environmental POV, it’s really dumb, and shows the fundamental ignorance of the VA lawmakers about how they work. Hybrids save gas/reduce pollution during stop-and-go city driving. So having a hybrid makes no sense if all you do is highway driving. If you’re really interested in the environment, then the smartest thing to do is encourage hybrid use in the city, or busy suburbs. A hybrid has NO different effect on the environment from an efficient, compact car when the primary use is highway, such as on the HOV lanes.

Owners will likely argue that the HOV rule encourages hybrid purchase to begin with. But surely there’s a better way. Those of us who slug can take comfort in the law’s expiration in 2006…and its unlikely renewal, given that the law violates Federal rules and would result in the loss of VA’s matched highway funds.




With all due respect, there are at least two other threads that you should read below that pretty much exhaust all debatable facets of this. We barely survived without resorting to (too many) personal attacks.

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Guess you haven't seen today's paper. Seems Congress is going to change the federal laws so Virginia (et al) will be in compliance and can continue the hybrid exemptions in HOV lanes. The House approved it in the energy bill and the Senate will take it up later this week. Did anyone really expect any less?

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2003/112003/11192003/1173015
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What’s very irksome about allowing Hybrids in the HOV lanes is that from an environmental POV, it’s really dumb, and shows the fundamental ignorance of the VA lawmakers about how they work. Hybrids save gas/reduce pollution during stop-and-go city driving. So having a hybrid makes no sense if all you do is highway driving. If you’re really interested in the environment, then the smartest thing to do is encourage hybrid use in the city, or busy suburbs. A hybrid has NO different effect on the environment from an efficient, compact car when the primary use is highway, such as on the HOV lanes.

Owners will likely argue that the HOV rule encourages hybrid purchase to begin with. But surely there’s a better way. Those of us who slug can take comfort in the law’s expiration in 2006…and its unlikely renewal, given that the law violates Federal rules and would result in the loss of VA’s matched highway funds.
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Originally posted by GeeseAreGood
[br]A CFag is a hybird car, I could say with the CF plates, but not all have the CFag plate and seem to do just fine.

I think we should call the CFers CFags!



Or perhaps we shouldn't. That term just seems juvenilely derrogatory. I'm not sure whether your intention is to say that people who drive CF vehicles are offensive as cigarettes or as homosexuals, but such a label seems quite out of place. Perhaps you could come up with a term for which a 3rd grade education is required. Or better yet--not.
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A CFag is a hybird car, I could say with the CF plates, but not all have the CFag plate and seem to do just fine.

I think we should call the CFers CFags!
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Originally posted by KCWolfPck
[br]Jealous??? Yeah right!! Hmmmm......a 76 or 85 horsepower car or a 280 horsepower car. Let me see.......Ummmmm. HAHAHA!!!! I'm not jealous of the parking I bet they have to pay either. When I used to drive single I paid $200 a month. Now that I carpool, I pay $18.00 a month. Granted.....sluggers pay even less.....$0.00. :-) Jealous....HA!



Then there are those of us who get free parking, so we drive or ride as the line dictates. I have daily pondered buying one of those $80,000-government-subsidized-to-cost-the-consumer-only-$25,000 cars (something along those lines), so I could not only get the tax rebate from the IRS but also get to ride at my own comfort level in the HOV lanes.

I have stopped myself from the purchase, because I would be doing it for all of the wrong reasons--for example, the energy savings really doesn't matter to me if I have to trade off for a car with no power (I assume there is none, since they always seem to be puttering along slowly in the "fast lane") and because I know I wouldn't ever attempt to take riders, no matter how much of "the right thing" that would be to do.

I do feel a certain amount of envy for people that have the cojones enough to ride solo, falsely using the pretense of saving fuel and protecting the environment, when in reality they are using one car to shuttle one person, when they could be carpooling and thereby transporting 3 people for virtually the same fuel as one.) But as long as the exemption exists. . . .go for it!!!! I can handle a bit of envy until that day comes. Overall, HOV is still better than the regular lanes.[:)]


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Something else regarding CF cars--bear in mind that not all of them are hybrids. I have a few colleagues who have natural gas cars, which are exempted under federal law. I bring this up simply because if the hybrid exemption WERE repealed, and then certain folks here saw the CNG cars in the express lanes, they would go berserk yelling about it. (Dr. Gridlock did last month, accusing someone with a propane-powered car of illegally switching the license plate.)
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