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That's also what was said a number of years ago regarding HOV across the 14th street bridge. HOV restrictions used to go all the way across the 14th street bridge, but were "temporarily" set aside in order to alleviate traffic during bridge repair.
I drive in the regular lanes in the morning because the nearest slug line (Bob's) is too far out of the way, and I wish they would close that ramp too. That may sound odd because you might think it would back up the regular lanes to the bridge even more, but I think having that ramp open actually slows down the regular lanes inordinately because of what I call the "kamikaze drivers" who enter the highway at Washington Boulevard and immediately gun it over to that HOV ramp--stopping their cars, if necessary, and causing everyone else to slam on the brakes. Incredibly dangerous scenario.
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Yea, it was great on the regular 395N lanes, too!!!
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Traffic was great this morning from 7:50 to 8:20 in the HOV lanes on 95/395. Not a single slow down all the way to Rossyln!
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[br]Ballston Rider:
The reason why the HOV entrance at Edsall is open to [everyone] is to help alleviate the traffic in the mixing bowl. Eventually, this entrance will revert back to HOV only when the construction is completed (we hope).


That's also what was said a number of years ago regarding HOV across the 14th street bridge. HOV restrictions used to go all the way across the 14th street bridge, but were "temporarily" set aside in order to alleviate traffic during bridge repair.
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Ballston Rider:
The reason why the HOV entrance at Edsall is open to [everyone] is to help alleviate the traffic in the mixing bowl. Eventually, this entrance will revert back to HOV only when the construction is completed (we hope). I feel your pain about this entrance since this is where I enter everyday. It's also frustrating that the people who are suppose to get off at the HOV exit in Springfield don't!!!

BTW, there are several other posts/threads on this board regarding this entrance.
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That area of the HOV is open to all traffic provided they get off at the next exit.....similar to 14th St. to the Pentagon.
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I am new to the area and to slugging. I just started commuting to Arlington from Woodbridge and have noticed the morning back up, but what is more irritating to me is the evening back up. Can someone explain why the HOV entrance just north of Edsall rode always says OPEN? There is consistent back up at this point, sometimes up to 10 mintues to allow people to get on the HOV and more than half the people are single, non hybred drivers. I pass this area around 5:30 every day and it is really irritating. Once we get to Springfield, the entrance clearly says HOV restricted until 6pm and there are usually cops patroling that entrance looking for violators. Is there some reason why this is?

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Thats ridiculous and not factual.

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Are you really as stupid as you make yourself out to be? I said that at times half the cars around me are with CF plates. This is a TRUE statement. This occurs frequently to me.

I also said that it SEEMS that half of the accidents in the HOV lanes have a hybrid involved. I did not say this is a fact, just that it SEEMS that way. I've seen less than ten accidents(after the fact) in the HOV lanes and four of them, involved a Hybrid car with CF plates.

You have a foolish notion that people are jealous of the CF exemption. That is your opinion, but it doesn't apply to me.


Yes, I am as stupid as I make myself out to me. I am also as smart as I make myself out to be. So are you, and your statement regarding hybrids in accidents *seems* very stupid to me.

If the jealousy hat doesn't fit, don't wear it.

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Originally posted by GeeseAreGood
[br]There are not that many CFag cars out there to cause this much trouble. I believe the problem is the 0530 traffic, which I contribute to a lot, though at 0530, a single driver in the HOV lane is not a cheater, I exit at Springfield and Park & Ride. I believe a fix to this is start HOV at 0530 and in the evening extend it to 6:30 pm or 7:00 pm. This will make the HOV lanes more efficient and may even help traffic in all lanes as it will enourage more car pooling and slugging which removes cars from the road.

The problem with the CFags is that they were granted an exemption and laid out the big bucks based on this promise. I do not think the state should go back on the promise, but I do not think they should extend it or create new exemptions or HOT lanes.


What exactly is a "CFag"?

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If the reason for I-95 HOV is to encourage car pooling/slugging and move the maximum amount of commuters in the most efficient and environment friendly way -- maybe the HOV rulesmakers should use a mixture of all the proposed solutions on this message board. From what's been posted, this would include:
a. Extending the HOV restricted hours to an earlier start time in the morning and a later end time in the afternoon.
b. Reinstating HOV-4 to ensure larger amount of passenger miles per vehicle trip in the HOV lanes
c. Allowing CF/hybrid vehicles with a restriction to increase their number of passenger miles per HOV trip (maybe HOV-2 or HOV-3 for them) and maintain an incentive to purchase high fuel efficient vehicles
Then, enforce the rules. All this might ease the HOV congestion to an agreeable degree while inflicting a degree of acceptable pain on all commuters. If the future development and growth to the south of DC is as large as some have reported, HOV might ultimately have to revert to the way it was when HOV started many years ago when HOV was initially for only buses and 15-passenger van pools. [B)]
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