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    Posted: 28 Feb 2012 at 2:34pm
ugggghh....my elected guy sponsored the extnsion Bill (barker) and voted yes (thanks for nothing)....Watts my delegate voted no (thank you vivian)

I will not be voting for him the next election cycle...

So simple to understand.. 1 HOV-3 vehicle takes two cars off the road. Am I missing something.....oh yeah the $25 the state gets for each clean fuel plate issued.

SB 209 HOV lanes; extends sunset provision on use by vehicles with clean special fuel license plates.
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floor: 01/24/12 Senate: Read third time and passed Senate (32-Y 8-N)

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YEAS--Barker, Black, Blevins, Carrico, Colgan, Deeds, Ebbin, Edwards, Favola, Hanger, Herring, Howell, Locke, Lucas, Marsden, Marsh, McDougle, McEachin, McWaters, Miller, J.C., Miller, Y.B., Newman, Norment, Northam, Petersen, Puckett, Puller, Reeves, Stanley, Vogel, Wagner, Watkins--32.

NAYS--Garrett, Martin, Obenshain, Ruff, Saslaw, Smith, Stosch, Stuart--8.



2012 SESSION
SB 209 HOV lanes; extends sunset provision on use by vehicles with clean special fuel license plates.

floor: 02/27/12 House: VOTE: PASSAGE (85-Y 11-N 1-A)

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YEAS--Albo, Alexander, BaCote, Bell, Richard P., Bell, Robert B., Brink, Bulova, Byron, Carr, Cline, Comstock, Cosgrove, Cox, J.A., Cox, M.K., Dance, Edmunds, Englin, Fariss, Farrell, Filler-Corn, Garrett, Greason, Habeeb, Head, Helsel, Herring, Hodges, Hope, Howell, A.T., Hugo, Iaquinto, Ingram, James, Joannou, Johnson, Keam, Knight, LeMunyon, Lewis, Lopez, Loupassi, Marshall, D.W., Marshall, R.G., Massie, May, McClellan, McQuinn, Merricks, Miller, Minchew, Morefield, Morris, Morrissey, O'Bannon, O'Quinn, Orrock, Peace, Plum, Pogge, Poindexter, Purkey, Putney, Ramadan, Ransone, Robinson, Rust, Scott, E.T., Scott, J.M., Sherwood, Sickles, Spruill, Stolle, Tata, Torian, Toscano, Tyler, Villanueva, Ware, O., Ware, R.L., Watts, Wilt, Wright, Yancey, Yost, Mr. Speaker--85.

NAYS--Anderson, Cole, Dudenhefer, Gilbert, Jones, Kilgore, Landes, Lingamfelter, Rush, Ward, Watson--11.

ABSTENTIONS--Surovell--1.

NOT VOTING--Crockett-Stark, Kory, Webert--3.

Delegate Jones was recorded as nay. Intended to vote yea.

Delegate Watts was recorded as yea. Intended to vote nay.
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Wow! An 80% approval!

Whom did you think was out of touch? You or the overwhelming majority?
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It's probably just easier to keep the exemption. But wait until HOT lanes are up and running. Now that should be interesting.
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Interesting is right. It likely will be perceived to be less expensive to pay a toll that what the cost difference was back in the day between a hybrid and a conventional vehicle. HOT spells the end of HOV-3 AND public transportation.

What a mess.
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Interesting is right. It likely will be perceived to be less expensive to pay a toll that what the cost difference was back in the day between a hybrid and a conventional vehicle. HOT spells the end of HOV-3 AND public transportation.

What a mess.


WOW we agree. yes our delegates made a real mess.
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Sadly, it's a calculated move by politicians: hybrid owners would scream bloody murder and no one in the media would argue with them; and the regular voters hardly change their stance over such minor (to them) thing.
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I'm betting when the HOT lanes start on 95, the hybrids will lose their exemption (statement made by my delegate). Every SOV that is not a hybrid will be asking their representatives to justify why they have to pay a toll but clean fuel tags (also SOVs) don't. Toll roads are not about the type of car you drive; they are just about cutting down on cummuting time.
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And this Dec 2011 Press Release reports the construction of the I-95 HOT lanes could begin in the next two or three months.

http://www.governor.virginia.gov/news/viewRelease.cfm?id=1032&printpage=Yes
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