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I drive a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid and there's no smell what-so-ever. I have a very sensitive sniffer and haven't noticed ANY smell at all. Hmmmmmmm.

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Yes, I too have noticed the smell on numerous occasions. It can be very bad and appears worse when the hybrid is accelerating. (By the way, this is sulfur dioxide, which is an air pollutant and causes acid rain). It may be that these cars are not tuned right. I will ask an expert I know if he has heard of this and whether it is a general characteristic or just a tuneup problem.

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Bob,

Would the driver of a Hybrid be able to smell this?? If I don't smell it, can I assume that my car is tuned properly? I take it to the dealership religiously for oil changes, scheduled maintenance and anything else.

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Another reason to get the Hybrids off the HOV lanes !!!
They stink !![:(!]

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If as I suspect it happens on acceleration you probably wouldnt smell it since the car would be moving. Although I have noticed this several times, I really have no idea if this is any kind of widespread problem. Since I commute around the same time each day, it may have actually even been the same car doing it.
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A "clean special fuel" license plate does NOT have to have the letters CF on it. The words "clean special fuel" are on the bottom of the plate. I have seen numerous CF vehicles with personelized "clean special fuel" plates that don't have the CF on them.

In the 3.5 years I've been in Stafford, I've noticed the traffic on I93/395 increasing as a whole. To decrease the congestion in the HOV lanes we need to cut down on the total number of cars in those lanes, both legally and ilegally. I propose the state legislature do the following: 1) get rid of all the exceptions to HOV (e.g. CF vehicles, off duty emergency responders) except for on-duty law enforcement and vehicles actively responding to an emergency; 2) return to HOV-4 on the I-95/395 corridor, with no exception for vehicles that cannot hold 4 or more people except for motorcycles (I don't think they contribute significantly to the congestion), and; 3) use the income generated from ticketing HOV violators for increasing police patrols of HOV and increased enforcement of HOV.
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Originally posted by Bob
[br]If as I suspect it happens on acceleration you probably wouldnt smell it since the car would be moving. Although I have noticed this several times, I really have no idea if this is any kind of widespread problem. Since I commute around the same time each day, it may have actually even been the same car doing it.



It could be the emissions system is shot. Hybrid car emissions aren't tested every two years like everyone else and if there is a problem with the emissions system no one will ever know to correct it. Too bad since it wouldn't cost the owner a thing to get it fixed under warranty.
There is another possibility. If it was a Prius it could have been the engine turning on. Turning the engine on is one of the dirtiest points in car emissions because, among other things, the catalytic converter is not heated up to operating temperature. The new Prius has an electric catalytic converter pre-heater to help minimize this. I'm not sure if the older prius had this. The Civic hybrid engine stays on and wouldn't have this problem. It's a trade-off, emissions while iding versus one short period of increased emissions.
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Ron, I feel the same way. Even though they use clean fuel, they are increasing traffic. If you want to help the environment, instead of getting in the car and slowing down traffic on the HOV, why don't you pick up people that do not have Hybrids and by doing that, you will be helping the earth in two ways.
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[br]I have seen a lot of complaining lately about Hybrids on the HOV lanes. VDOT says thet 4% of cars on the HOV's are alternative fuel vehicles. Well my count sometimes says the number is closer to 10-15% and rising ! These cars are causing the HOV lanes to backup. What's next ???? Free parking for Hybrids ?? No Registration required ??? Skip to the front of the line at Starbucks ??? Help us do away with this problem. Write or email your state representatives, senators, delegates, even the Governor, etc..... Tell them to get these vehicles off our HOV lanes !! Unless of course they pick up a few riders [:)]
Virginia State Senators-- http://sov.state.va.us/SenatorDB.nsf/$$Viewtemplate+for+WMembershipHome?OpenForm
Virginia House of Delegates -- http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/MWebsiteTL?OpenView
Governor Warner -- http://www.governor.virginia.gov/Contact/Contact.html
Virginia Congressional Delegation -- http://www.virginia.gov/cmsportal/government_881/government_1046/officials_1355/congressional_1351/index.html

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Thanks for posting those links! I was able to send an email message to Gov Warner about this.

I am seeing more & more of these vehicles on the HOV. This, in combination with the number of violators makes for a crowded HOV...

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Originally posted by spolastre
[br]Ron, I feel the same way. Even though they use clean fuel, they are increasing traffic. If you want to help the environment, instead of getting in the car and slowing down traffic on the HOV, why don't you pick up people that do not have Hybrids and by doing that, you will be helping the earth in two ways.



Hybrids don't use a clean fuel. They use gas just like most other cars. That's part of the gripe with them, they aren't cleaner than a lot of other cars and yet they still get special treatment. There is no logic to including hybrids in the clean special fuel exemption other than to let people buy their way out of the regular lanes and to increase the sales of Honda and Toyota. This "clean fuel" law should reflect tested emissions, not perceived(ie marketing hype) emissions. At the very least they need to require Honda to sell the cleaner version of their hybrids here instead of the stripped down dirtier version.
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