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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rodmunera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jul 2006 at 2:48pm
NoSUV is baked on Hybrid fumes! [:)]
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[br]What daily HOV jams? They are as rare as a hybrid parked in the commuter lot!



NoSUV,

Tell everyone your "sample size" portion of the HOV first, then allow them to draw their own conclusions about your implied statement contained in your quoted question.

I would assert one would need to ride the entire HOV S-N am and N-S pm at different times to make a more accurate assertion concerning "HOV jams".


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[br]They are as rare as a hybrid parked in the commuter lot!



You obviously haven't been to the Rt 610 lot!!!
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One thing NoSUV would probably not want to admit is that he'd get better MPG if he had is happy little hybrid butt over in the regular lanes than driving at 70+ MPH in the HOV lanes. That right there is probably the biggest reason the hybrid exemption should've been revoked. The whole purpose of the HOV exemption was for clean fuel vehicles, not hybrids that need to burn gas while cruising at highway speed.
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ronin - you don't know what you are talking about. Hybrids get better mileage on the highway than stop and go. Try to use facts instead of make believe.
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[br]ronin - you don't know what you are talking about. Hybrids get better mileage on the highway than stop and go. Try to use facts instead of make believe.



Are you sure about that? My boss has a Hybrid and he said the opposite. He said that you use gas when you press the pedal to accelerate and when driving at higher speeds. Electric kicks in when you hit the brake (as in stop and go traffic), right?
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NoSUV has a special hybrid. He probably gets better mileage when he turns off the air conditioning and opens the windows too. Was that you I saw earlier this week? :p
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Hmmm, lets review some basic physics. When you push down on the accelerator that means you are accelerating. When you are accelerating, that means you are increasing speed. When you are not accelerating, that means you are either going at a constant speed or decelerating. On my “special” hybrid, my electric motor is run by dual sources: a battery and a gas powered engine. When I don’t accelerate, my motor is not run exclusively by gas. Even at express lane speeds.

Ask your boss what happens when he isn't speeding up. He should notice that the electric motor is powered by the battery. And, yes, the battery is charged when braking, when decelerating, and when you stomp on the gas pedal and the motor must go full bore.
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Ok, one must grant in this all though that the gas/elec hybrid gets better "gas mileage" in stop/go traffic than cruising at 75 mph or some similar highway cruising speed.

The physics of that is gas/elecs (GEs) use battery power even while accelerating to a certain degree. In any case, the physics here show that batteries are used at the lower speeds of stop/go traffic than at cruise speed.

A search of fueleconomy.gov indicates most of the hybrids getting better gas mileage in "city" than "highway" ratings. I'm pretty sure most of us understand the difference between the two, but for the uninitiated, the stop&go of 395/95 more closely approximates "city" driving than does the HIGHWAY cruising speeds of 395/95 (except where gummed up by too many SOVs of all types).

For a geewhiz, my two vehicles get about the mpg rating fueleconomy.gov indicates they get. In my small sample size, their data is fairly accurate.

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Originally posted by NoSUV
[br]ronin - you don't know what you are talking about. Hybrids get better mileage on the highway than stop and go. Try to use facts instead of make believe.



Guess you didn't check the gas mileage on the window sticker (how's that for a fact) when you paid the small fortune over the price of a regular car for your Hybrid.

Enjoy your ride in the HOV lanes, while it lasts. I pray the VA state house has the brass not to mess with the July 1 2007 expiration date.
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