Are there "Body Snatchers" at your slug lot?
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Topic: Are there "Body Snatchers" at your slug lot?
Posted By: kortegel
Subject: Are there "Body Snatchers" at your slug lot?
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2002 at 2:17pm
It has been discovered that "will call" practices is in accordance with slugging etiquette. Therefore the message that existed here has been deleted in retraction. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you.
Edited by - kortegel on 02 Aug 2002 12:30:22
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Posted By: 610_Slug
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2002 at 3:45pm
It's been going on for over 8 years...as long as I've been slugging, and I don't see a problem. So, it just didn't happen recently. Slugging is not Government regulated. It is a free ride to work. This "body snatching" as you call it doesn't happen that often...and I've stood in hundreds of lines over the years. Slug rules, if there are such a thing, say that it is the right of the driver to call someone over if they want, as it is the right of a passenger to refuse to ride with someone.
My feeling is be patient...you will get to where you're going to. I have never been stranded slugging...even when the "body snatchers" come by :) If you're in a hurry, maybe the train, bus, carpool or vanpool would be the way to go.
"Body snatching" by definition (see below) is not taking certain slugs from the slug line itself. "Body snatching" is cruising the lot trying to pick up slugs BEFORE they get to the line. This is not an acceptable practice, so I'm editing this response.
Edited by - 610_slug on 02 Aug 2002 11:40:06
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Posted By: TKest
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2002 at 7:23am
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610slug: Nice that you feel that way, but I disagree with you. As someone said on the "Can I Reject a Rider" string, just because there is no rule, doesn't make it right. We already know how you feel from previous messages and that is great for you. We also (like you) have the right to disagree!!!!
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Posted By: USA
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2002 at 8:13am
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It's been going on for over 8 years...as long as I've been slugging, and I don't see a problem. So, it just didn't happen recently. Slugging is not Government regulated. It is a free ride to work. This "body snatching" as you call it doesn't happen that often...and I've stood in hundreds of lines over the years. Slug rules, if there are such a thing, say that it is the right of the driver to call someone over if they want, as it is the right of a passenger to refuse to ride with someone.
My feeling is be patient...you will get to where you're going to. I have never been stranded slugging...even when the "body snatchers" come by :) If you're in a hurry, maybe the train, bus, carpool or vanpool would be the way to go.
Seems to me that it's the driver's car and it's the driver's prerogative to reject whomever he chooses for whatever reason he wants (any reason....even if he wants to reject all blacks because he's a Klan member, it's his car). That doesn't mean that someone should routinely pull out people from the back of the line; it would destroy the system if everyone started doing this. But if I, as a driver, came up to, say, 14th & Constitution and saw my next-door neighbor waiting 6 people back, I would indeed call him out of the line and, if challenged, tell the others that he's my next-door neighbor. (If there were enough slugs in line I would take the first two as well.)
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Posted By: USA
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2002 at 8:31am
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USA brings up a good point...maybe a happy medium is to take a neighbor or friend so long as you take at a minimum the first person in line going to your destination? I think this would make everybody happy. Unfortunately, what has been practiced in my presence lately is a driver pulling up and pulling multiple people from the BACK of the line which is total BS.
K.O.
After I posted I thought about it some more I have to agree that, on the whole, it is rude to pull to the line and grab two people from the back; while I also believe that it is the driver's prerogative to select people (for example--if I see someone smoking in line, that person will not be allowed into my car, which has always been smoke-free and is going to stay that way), I think the people who have said that the driver should pull the car somewhere else and then approach those people have the right idea (where this can be done, of course--on 14th Street that might be tough). I know some people don't think that the driver should take a neighbor or even a spouse, but the way I see it is that--suppose the slug were to have someone picking him up at the slug line. If the neighbor calls him out and gives him a ride all the way home, doesn't that further the purpose of the whole system by taking another vehicle off the road?
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Posted By: USA
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2002 at 8:33am
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suppose the slug were to have someone picking him up at the slug line
By the above text I meant, of course, the drop-off point (I think of the drop-off point as a slug line as well because there's a morning line there in many cases).
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Posted By: USA
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2002 at 9:03am
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Although I have seen it written, I find it unrealistic to expect a driver not to pick up a spouse or family member. Slugging after all is supposed to be convenient, not inconvenient. It makes no sense for a driver to leave behind their spouse when it would obviously be more convenient to drive home together. However, some have extended convenience to friends, coworkers, and neighbors. It seems that some drivers don't realize that by picking certain people out everyday what they have is a CARPOOL and that needs to be arranged and practiced outside the slug system.
I believe everyone would agree with that final sentence. (I was operating on the presumption that whether one does this depends on who's there when one pulls up to the line.)
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Posted By: 610_Slug
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2002 at 11:22am
"Body snatching" and calling people from the slug line are two different things, according to "slug etiquette" posted on this site. It states...
"No "Body Snatching." If the line of cars picking up slugs is too long, many times drivers will cruise the commuter parking lots, attempting to pick up slugs walking to the line. This practice is unfair to both slugs and drivers. I have seen this rule both enforced and violated, by both drivers and slugs. Hopefully, this rule will stand the test of time; otherwise, it will be a free-for-all."
This happened a lot at Potomac Mills because the car line was so long..drivers would try and pick up slugs getting out of their cars before they got to the line.
"Body snatching" has NOTHING to do with pulling up to the slug line and calling out for certain people to ride with you. Please reread the definition. So, unless you're slugging from a lot where the line of cars is longer than the actual slug line, you would probably not see people cruising the lot trying to pick up slugs before they stood in line. Just wanted to set the record straight.
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Posted By: 610_Slug
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2002 at 11:57am
Look under slugging terms on this web site (http://www.slug-lines.com/Slugging/Slugging%20Terms.htmat) at the bottom of the page:
"Will Call — the driver’s option to pick a particular slug not at the front of the line. This situation usually happens when a driver sees a friend in line and simply calls for that individual."
This is an acceptable practice and has been for years.
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Posted By: kortegel
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2002 at 12:20pm
Well I'm eating crow as I read the last message. It's unfortunate, since I've seen how upset the practice is making people (not just myself) but there it is in black and white. Will grin and bear it from now on.
K.O.
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Posted By: contralj
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2002 at 8:32am
There are a disturbing number of body snatchers appearing at Bob's. There was a blue Ford Taurus and a dark colored SUV trying to get people as they walked from the commuter lot through the First Union bank lot. Please folks, do not take rides from these people-- it ruins the system. And besides-- body snatchers usually appear when there are lots of cars already in line, so as a rider, you're probably going to get a ride from the drivers already in line anyway.
-Larry
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Posted By: Joma
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2002 at 9:20am
Acceptable to who? Nevermind, it is NOT acceptable to many (as you saw on the previous thread).
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Look under slugging terms on this web site (http://www.slug-lines.com/Slugging/Slugging%20Terms.htmat) at the bottom of the page:
"Will Call — the driver’s option to pick a particular slug not at the front of the line. This situation usually happens when a driver sees a friend in line and simply calls for that individual."
This is an acceptable practice and has been for years.
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Posted By: lotsa
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2002 at 9:31am
I agree with you Joma. As was stated on the previous thread which 610 slug angrily and, at times insultingly, tried to convince everyone to come round to his way of thinking, just because it is stated on the website that it is acceptable, doesn't mean all slugs think the same way. Of course we can't say or do anything about it, it is the driver's choice, but we don't have to dub it "acceptable." 610_slug doesn't get that he can't dictate to others how they must think.
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(Joma)
Acceptable to who? Nevermind, it is NOT acceptable to many (as you saw on the previous thread).
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610_Slug
Look under slugging terms on this web site (http://www.slug-lines.com/Slugging/Slugging%20Terms.htmat) at the bottom of the page:
"Will Call — the driver’s option to pick a particular slug not at the front of the line. This situation usually happens when a driver sees a friend in line and simply calls for that individual."
This is an acceptable practice and has been for years.
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Posted By: gg
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2002 at 10:26am
I think "Will-Call" is only fair if the driver also picks up the fisrt person in line. That is, if a driver needs only one slug to make up a threesome, but sees someone in line that he calls out to, he should pick up the person he knows and the first one in line and make it a foursome. I've been in this situation a number of times as a slug and the driver cordially made it a foursome. To call out a person and not pickup one slug hurts the fundamental cause of the slugging system.
If a driver needs two slugs, he can pick up the person he knows and should have the prerogative to either pick up one or two slugs.
gg
After I wrote the above comment, I wondered, what if a driver needed only one slug, but "will called" two people to make up his max capacity of four. Hopefully, this is a rare occurrence and it would be on the conscience of the driver to do the right thing.
Edited by - gg on 16 Aug 2002 10:46:08
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