Worst ride.
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Topic: Worst ride.
Posted By: deepali_anuje
Subject: Worst ride.
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 10:25am
Hello All,
I just wanted to inform you all that I had a nightmare of an experience this morning slugging from potomac mills to DC. I got in a BMW (I dont have the licence plate right now but I am preety sure to see her next time in the slug line, and I will make sure to note it down), with 2 African American ladies sitting in the car. Car was a BMW. Car was quite clean from inside. The driver looked like she was in her late 30's and the person sitting in the passenger seat was around late 40's. The person in the passenger seat, usually is a slugger to DC and I have seen her many times in the line. However, she was not standing in the slug line today and had already been sitting in the car when they drove to the slug line.
The car pulled to the slug line and I was second in the line going towards 14th street. I am about 24 weeks pregnant woman and the man standing before me was generous and he told me to go and take the ride. He had asked her initially, if she was ready to take two and she said no she had something there. Apparantly, she just had a small bag in the back seat, a size of a bean bag. Well, she didnt want to take the 4th rider. So he let me go.
As she started she had the sun roof open which was letting the air in the car. As soon as she entered the HOV lanes, she pulled it down. She didnot turn the AC. It was still okay. Then she pulled her radio on to a considerably high volume. It was so high that it started pulling my heart beat up. We reached a little further up springfield when she increased her volume even more. At this point it was just getting extremely unbearable for me to hear the loud music sitting on the back seat. Thank-God it was not a 2 seater car.
We reached around Shirlington when I just couldnt keep my mouth shut and I asked her if she could reduce the volume, at which she just looked at me and ignored. I said her "Mam, I am 6 months pregnant, my baby is moving a lot,and my heartbeat is beating too fast." She laughs at me and says me in a sly tone - baby is moving huh? I said it is not a joke mam and it is definately not funny. After a little more argument, I asked her to pull off the road and she said she wouldnt pull off either and she kept laughing. She said she will pull it when it is safe. I told her again, "I am just requesting you, can you please reduce the volume,I am just not able to bear it". Now she increased it more louder. I was almost shivering at this point, I asked her if she could open the window. She said no.. I asked her where is the safe point in her definition that she cant drop me at and she mentioned after the 14th street bridge. I said her I will note down her number and call the police. She was laughed and told me "Do whatever you want to do, the volume is not loud, it is in your head". I said "Did you just call me insane? I know what is happening to me, okay?" We had a bunch of arguments which followed and she was just making fun of me all the road. I said her i would call 911, and she was about to pull over. Unfortunately, my cell phone battery had died (i had forgotten to charge it previous night), and i couldnt use the phone. She saw this and before she opened the door she changed her mind and she started driving again. I asked the other lady if I could borrow her phone and the other lady would not help either. She said she is not going to pull over and she will drive me across the whole town. At this point, I was like okay thats fine and I started cursing her. I told her I am sitting in your car and cursing you. I am preety sure she had no kids because any sane woman would never do that. I told her that this is a harassment. She kept making fun of me all the time. I really felt that she was some kind of an immature woman who couldnt understand another woman.
After a long heated argument ,She finally dropped me at 14th and D. At this point, I was shivering and just so scared that something was terribly wrong with my body. I knocked on a window of the car and told the person if he could drop me to 14th and K. The man was kind enough to take me to K but I couldnt help crying in his car. I really apologize for this. Whoever that good samaritan was, I cant thankyou enough for that ride. I told him what happened. I think he understood.
I dont have the license number of the car those two two african american ladies drove in but they are definately are imprinted in my mind. I will take a picture next time I see them and post it on-line, I am so upset. Ofcourse, I will also put the BMW number plate next time as well..
Thanks,
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Posted By: Bodybykids
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 10:36am
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I am so sorry you had such a terrible ride into DC this morning. I know saying that doesn't make it better. Hope all is well with you and your baby. Slug lines work when we are considerate of each other.
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 12:50pm
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Thanks, I am definately feeling better after 2-3 hours now. I still cant believe that a woman could do something like this to another woman. I am still kind of shocked.
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Posted By: fruitfulone
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 2:00pm
WOW,this is truly scary.
I, too, am sorry for what you had to endure this morning. I hope the rest of your day is brighter.
Please do post their info when you get it to prevent this from happening to someone else. Thanks for sharing.
God Bless,
fruitfulone
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 3:26pm
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Thanks for your kind words. I will definately post the pictures as soon as I see her next time. One lesson learnt though from this whole process, if my cell phone is not charged, I will be driving next time. Its just not worth this risk where I was going through hell and the driver is making fun of me. These kind of people should be off the slug lines really. Thank-fully nothing serious happened to me - I thank God, but if someone is going through a much serious problem or for that matter any life threatening problems instead of helping, these people and most importantly these women would sit there making fun of them. It just shows the way they have been raised, I think. Its really shame to have such people around.
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Posted By: Our Mom Spot
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2010 at 2:56pm
I was SO upset when I read that. It's been a few weeks.
PLEASE post the license plate number here.
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Posted By: trapps
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 12:53pm
Don't be so quick to Judge. There is always 3 sides to a story. yours mind and the truth! By the way it wasn't me lol. Just seems a little off.
750LI
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Posted By: CJ
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:23pm
If even 1/4 of this story is true, those women should be ASHAMED. end of story
CJ
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Posted By: BurkeSlugin
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 10:17pm
You have to be flexible to be a slug. If a slugger feels the need to control the radio station selection, the radio volume, the air conditioner temperature, etc., maybe that person is better suited to being a driver.
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Posted By: AngloAustrian
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2010 at 11:25am
Indeed, you have to be flexible. When it's cold, I put on a sweater (I come prepared), when the radio is too loud, I listen to my ipod or put in ear plugs (I come prepared), when the driver is a smoker, I refuse the ride, when it's too hot (no a/c), I just pray for the end and remind myself that as long as I have water (I come prepared) I won't expire from heat! I keep quiet, I mind my own business. Basically, short of driving like a maniac or lighting up after I have got into the car, there is pretty much nothing that will annoy me. I am happy for the free ride.
The only comment I will make about the post is that the writer says, "I said," and "I told" and "I asked" repeatedly when she states that the radio is so loud that she cannot think. I would have thought "shouted" or "screamed" would have been more appropriate if the radio was truly as loud as she said it was.
However, even if her perception of radio loudness is different to others, the ladies in the car should not have been so rude.
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2010 at 1:00pm
This is addressed to "AngloAustrian" especially -
I am polite enough to say that "I asked", "I told". For your info, if you read correctly, I have also said "I requested". Let me put it this way, how else are you going to put it, if something like this happened to you? Esp, for the fact that you are pregnant?
Things can happen to anyone, anytime. That does not mean, that you behave like highschoolers trying to bully people just because they rode in your car. The point was not just of being uncomfortable. I told repeatedly, my heartbeat is increasing, my muscles are contracting. Do you think it would be pleasant if someone throws up in your car but still should shut up and bear the circumstances? Would you treat a person having heart-attack the same way? I am sorry, that my thinking is not like yours. Also, FYI, I drive many times too. That day just seemed to be "the bad one". Also, when I pick up people, I make sure people get a smooth and comfortable ride. If you have slugged, you will think about the riders.
Let me also make one point clear, It is not the first time that I took a slug ride. I have been doing this for past 3.5 - 4 years years now. I have taken rides to other parts of DC as well as pentagon.But this is the first time, I felt the need to post. Having a normal hot or cold weather, or occassionaly a reasonably high volume or radio, bad talk shows do get slide.
Sure, like everyone else, I carry my sweater in winters and I carry an iphone with earplugs. But what do you do with some one who doesnot even start AC or locks all the windows - YEAH THROW UP IN THEIR CAR. Do you think you would like to take a chance when you are 6 months pregnant with labor pains and you are just not feeling right? What do you do, if out of 365 days, 1 day you forget to charge your phone and that day turns out to a ride in a DEAF AND CRAZY person's car? PAY THE PRICE, because its a price of fame for sitting in her car. Cool, thats why I am trying to make others aware so that they dont have to pay this price if they forget to charge their phones..
Sorry, but Just being mean to other people is a way of seeking pleasure for some sad souls around...
For all others who have been concerned -
I have tried to look out for the car since Aug 02. These ladies havent slung by to the potomac parking lot since then again. I havent forgotten this experience, I promise you and I will never ever. The moment I see them again, I am going to make sure to post the picture of their licence plate..
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2010 at 1:26pm
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Again, if you just meant that I did not say "shouted", I will like to also tell you, that English is not my first language like most. May be I am not as effective writer as any person bought up in America would be. I am in this country since 2004 and I think I have done preety well so far. For people, who can understand me, perhaps also understand that translating from another language mentally to English can be a challenge at times.
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Posted By: AngloAustrian
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 11:28am
I have no desire to get into a fight with you. All I am saying is that different cultures have different perceptions and it is possible that your perception of "loud" may not be the same as another's. Your English is good enough to be able to state that the driver spoke in a "sly tone." If the radio is blaring so loudly that your "heart is beating too fast", a "sly tone" is not possible. I, too, speak more than one language, and know the difference between "said" and "shouted" in both, as you obviously do. You also know the meaning of "sly" otherwise you would not have used that particular word. You just can't shout in a "sly tone."
Now, having said that, the women should not have treated you as disrespectfully as they did, no matter how they perceived your behavior. All I am saying is that the way you wrote the post makes me wonder how loud the radio really was. And your note that the driver had a bag the "size of a bean bag" makes me also wonder about your sense of entitlement. There are many reasons, per slug rules, and other reasons, why drivers should not/do not take extra passengers, especially during rush hour, which you should know, having slugged for 3-4 years. Lastly, for your own safety, getting into a fight with the driver, who appears to be unreasonable (to you) is not the safest course of action. The driver appears to have been driving safely, as you make no mention of speeding, tailgating etc. You say you are "polite," but then you "cursed" the driver and threatened to call the police! In the end, you just succeeded in blowing the whole situation up, whereas if you had been quiet, stuck something in your ears, got through the ride and got out, you would have had an easier time. You need to think carefully how you handle the next "nightmare" that you encounter because your safety is at risk. You ask how I would handle it? Just like that, put something in my ears, shut up, and get there in one piece and, oh, a heart attack is something completely different to a loud radio. And if a loud radio or lack of A/C would affect you so badly and cause "labor pains" at 24 weeks which would cause you to "throw up" in someone's car, then you need to seriously reconsider how you get to work in the morning and possibly see your doctor. Also, your ride took place in the morning, presumably early like at 6 or 7. Although muggy and not great, it's not THAT hot in the mornings (in fact, I looked it up - the temp in the morning on August 2 was about 68-70 degrees at that time) that you should be throwing up because the A/C is not on, even with the windows closed.
So, as Trapps says, there is always another side to the story.
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 3:29pm
Addressed to @AngloAustrian -
@AngloAustrian: "I have no desire to get into a fight with you."
Me: Good, Me neither! I am just here to give a description of what I felt at the time and what someone else in my situation could potentially feel. If you are a stronger person than me, good for you. I have no desire to fight with you or for that matter anyone else either.
@AngloAustrian: All I am saying is that different cultures have different perceptions and it is possible that your perception of "loud" may not be the same as another's.
Me: Agreed. May be it was just me like you said. But if I am requesting you and I am in trouble, why would someone have so much ego to understand another human being? Also, like i said in my earlier post, this is not my first ride, and certainly upto 24 weeks I have been regularly slugging. So I definately do not think that just in a span of 1 day my ears went from just being sensitive to super-sensitive. Anyways, I do take your point and still go further that it could just be me. If consistently a rider requests you that something is wrong with her, can you please lower the radio, instead of helping why should someone inturn increase the radio volume?
@AngloAustrian: Your English is good enough to be able to state that the driver spoke in a "sly tone." If the radio is blaring so loudly that your "heart is beating too fast", a "sly tone" is not possible.
Me: And how do you decide that? Are you a literature expert? Or are you a Psychologist? If you are, you will need to proove me, for me to be convinced that you are indeed talking a real statistical report.
@AngloAustrian: I, too, speak more than one language, and know the difference between "said" and "shouted" in both, as you obviously do. You also know the meaning of "sly" otherwise you would not have used that particular word. You just can't shout in a "sly tone."
Me: Good for you that you speak multiple languages and you can make the difference between both. "Sly" is a very common British english word for "Cunning" and coming from india we use both these word very commonly in everyday life. I dont think we use neither "Sly" or "Cunning" in an everyday american english here in america. Again, that is besides the point. There are many words that I would use normally, that many here will not. I have been raised - reading writing in "Queens" English as they say here although my mother tongue is not english. You can presumably argue that you speak British too and you dont use these words or whatever. I dont have any explaination for that. I just know I do and many of my friends bought up in a similar environment do. And I can guarantee on you this. Again, when I was writing, my state of mind was disturbed, I have written the post right after I reached work, first thing that morning. The words may not have come to me as fast as it would in normal circumstances. It would be pointless for me to explain it to you since you seem to have already made up your mind about me. Per what you just said, lets put it this way may be my IQ level could be lower than yours since you seem to think faster to think than me.
@AngloAustrian: Now, having said that, the women should not have treated you as disrespectfully as they did, no matter how they perceived your behavior.
Me: Thanks! Thats all I am trying to say here. I was shocked to find a woman treating another woman so immaturely. Even if I got "sensitive" to loudness [per you], when I am repeatedly telling the ladies that something doesnt feel right with my body, instead of helping she is making fun of me. Thats what angered me. Again, if you think this was all me, I leave it to you. Like I said before, I have no intention of convincing or forcing anyone what I felt. It is all up to you. I am a person who doesnot like playing with risks and if I feel that I didnot enjoy the ride, I have a right to speak what I felt. You can choose to accept or reject.
@AngloAustrian: All I am saying is that the way you wrote the post makes me wonder how loud the radio really was. And your note that the driver had a bag the "size of a bean bag" makes me also wonder about your sense of entitlement. There are many reasons, per slug rules, and other reasons, why drivers should not/do not take extra passengers, especially during rush hour, which you should know, having slugged for 3-4 years.
Me: No I did not know that you cant take the 4th passenger - and I am honest about that. And yes, I have indeed slugged for 3- 4 years, I am living in this area from 2006 and since the time I moved here, I have been slugging. Now again, if you dont want to believe that either, it is up to you. But I have not been aware that you cant take the 4th rider for whatever reasons. Good to know it today. Also, as a driver, I always took the 4th rider just thinking that I have an extra space and someone will get a ride. Thats all.
@AngloAustrian: Lastly, for your own safety, getting into a fight with the driver, who appears to be unreasonable (to you) is not the safest course of action.
Me: Okay, Let me clarify - when I stepped into the car, everthing was normal. You cant judge a person by the way he or she looks and she appeared to be quite normal. Like I said, read my post again, it was a preety clean car. They were about late 30's and 40's. At that age, every woman normally that I have encountered in my last 3- 4 years of slugging seemed quite sane and understanding of others. She did not in any way appear un-reasonable.
@AngloAustrian: The driver appears to have been driving safely, as you make no mention of speeding, tailgating etc. You say you are "polite," but then you "cursed" the driver and threatened to call the police! In the end, you just succeeded in blowing the whole situation up,
whereas if you had been quiet, stuck something in your ears, got through the ride and got out, you would have had an easier time.
Me: I agree with you here. Yes, the driver did not tailgate or speed. But what do you do if are just scared for something going seriously wrong with your body. Trust me its more easier to advice when you are sane than when you are in a situation like that. You mind is not a state of thinking. Sticking something into my ears was not helping - Remember i shut up until we reached Shirlington and when it was just unbearable, I spoke up. Please read my post again. And plus, instead of helping me, if someone tells you that she is going to take you for a ride across the town, in that case anyone in my place would have called the police. My cell phone battery had died and she was literally making fun of me for the remaining time. That when i cursed her. May be you are too calmer person to handle this situation so easily. At 24 weeks, the fetus is absolutely capable of hearing any noises inside and outside the womb. At 8'0 clock in the morning, if someone hears that loud a music, even adults get startled. Trust me, the baby was moving so much which was very unusual in that time of the morning because every expectant mother knows the patterns of the baby movements and I could feel my muscles soaring up, I am not making this up. But again, am not here to convince you.
@AngloAustrian: You need to think carefully how you handle the next "nightmare" that you encounter because your safety is at risk. You ask how I would handle it? Just like that, put something in my ears, shut up, and get there in one piece and, oh, a heart attack is something completely different to a loud radio.
Me: Good for you. Like I said, its much harder than just saying. Its much more easier to advice when you are not in someones shoes. On a normal day, yes, I can take your approach. But being 6 months pregnant - I expected a woman to understand a woman which apparantly I was completely wrong with assuming. Also, may be things are not associated with loud music like you said, but just the fact, that someone is not feeling right should be a thought of any human to consider.
@AngloAustrian: And if a loud radio or lack of A/C would affect you so badly and cause "labor pains" at 24 weeks which would cause you to "throw up" in someone's car, then you need to seriously reconsider how you get to work in the morning and possibly see your doctor.
Me: Yes I did contact my doctor and here is what I was told: There are many things that can cause harmonal or many other changes during pregnancy. Labor pains are not in my control or for that matter anyones. A lot of things happen during pregnancy and not even doctors have a reasonable explaination for that. If you would like to speak to my doctor, I can provide you with her contact details since you seem to be an expert in the medical field.
@AngloAustrian: Also, your ride took place in the morning, presumably early like at 6 or 7. Although muggy and not great, it's not THAT hot in the mornings (in fact, I looked it up - the temp in the morning on August 2 was about 68-70 degrees at that time) that you should be throwing up because the A/C is not on, even with the windows closed.
Me: Well, I think your heat bearing capacity seems to be quite good as well. Seems like you are indeed a "Super Human". Also, let me tell you that the temperature for sure was not in 60's or 70's. In fact the average temperature for July-August of 2010 has been between 90 - 100 deg F. [Please contradict if with a proof]. Now again, I dont have exact number neither do you, unless you are in a meteorology department. Coming to the conclusion,I said this several times,and say it again, you can infer what ever you want to from this.
@AngloAustrian: So, as Trapps says, there is always another side to the story.
Me: Sure, Like I said, I am not here to change your opinions or convince you for anything. I am just here to say what I felt:).
The slugging rules say, that you are "Slugging at your own risk". In reality even if you are slugging at your own risk and even if the car is someone elses, it doesnot give a right to the driver to kidnap or murder a fellow passenger. That is still an offence under law. Like they say, a wise person does not need to taste poison to know it is a poison. But you seem to Super wise and a super human, it is completely your choice.
Good luck!!!
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 6:39pm
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Just heard on WTOP on the way back home that it was the coolest weather today since May of 23rd for the first time during the day. And the average temperature for the day today is 73 degrees :). Just an FYI...
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Posted By: Pentagon1
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 8:15pm
Once you were safe and had access to a phone, why didn't you call the police? I'm no lawyer but I believe holding someone against their will is a crime.
I usually drive these days, mainly because I got tired of rude drivers. But if I was a slug in your situation, and the driver wouldn't let me out, I'm pretty sure I could come up with a few ways to motivate him/her to get me out of their car.
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Posted By: deepali_anuje
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2010 at 11:05pm
Pentagon1,
I dont have the number plate of the car. I am still on a lookout for those two ladies. I have been driving these days mostly because of what happened and if I am slugging, I am only taking a ride with people I know. I dont have any proof to call the police. The two ladies did not pick up anyone else besides me. The gentleman who gave me a ride from 14th and D where the two ladies dropped me, perhaps came from Springfield area I assume, because he asked me if I took a ride from Springfield. He had two passengers with him when I knocked his window to give me a ride. But I just dont know who he was or never ever seen him before. He took me out of his way and dropped me to 14 and K. Again, even if I call the police now or even then, wouldnt they ask me for more information than what I have?
Besides the faces of those two ladies, I only remember that it was a BMW car. I will not be able to tell you what model but it was a 4 door sedan and seemed fairly new and well maintained. I vaguely remember that the car was a blue color but I am not completely sure about that either. She did not even let me get out of the car completely at 14th and D, before which is took off. By the time i got back in senses, she was no where seen. I am ready to go to the police even now, but what do I say without any proof?
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Posted By: AngloAustrian
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 10:17am
Example of how temperature works during the day. It is not at maximum temperature at 7:00 or 8:00 a.m. You have to move the graph around to see the temps, and remember this is for today - but there are forecasts showing days at equal temps coming up. So, you can look around to get the "proof" you need. Obviously, not 90s and 100s, like you claim, at 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning.
http://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/washington-dc/hourly
I don't have the time or energy to respond to the rest of your post and some of it is just plainly weird (you want me to talk to your doctor?!!)
Stay safe.
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Posted By: Elemental
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 8:56am
I agree that this was a horrible situation and no driver should threaten to not let you out of the car, but there are certainly parts of this situation that you could have handled better to avoid the escalation. Your body may be more sensitive to sound & heat because of the pregnancy, but that is your responsibility to be aware of this and "slug at your own risk". It is not the driver's responsibility to accommodate your pregnancy. Perhaps if the pregnancy is causing you to be this sensitive, then slugging is not a good option for now.
You are incredibly lucky that the man in the next car picked you up and gave you a ride, but why would you even knock on the window of a stranger's car in traffic and ask him to give you a ride? I understand you are upset, but if you are already so scared, it seems even scarier to get into the car with a complete stranger in traffic. You are very lucky that not only did he give you a ride, but he wasn't a crazy person or a kidnapper. At least when you get into a stranger's car at a slug line, there is a mutual understanding of where you are going.
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Posted By: Corbett
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 10:50pm
OMG. Yes, someone hinted at the crime. Once you have told her you wanted to get out of the car, she should have let you out. If she didn't, you were ABDUCTED which is a felony!! If a man & woman hit it off in a bar & go somewhere for sex, if she (even during sex) says no he better stop. After that, it is rape!
You were abducted and should report it.
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Posted By: MrV
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:39am
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Originally posted by deepali_anuje
Thanks, I am definately feeling better after 2-3 hours now. I still cant believe that a woman could do something like this to another woman. I am still kind of shocked.
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH...I had to ride in a car with two black women and listen to "black music" and it made my heart beeat fast."
SMH. [:(]
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Posted By: MrV
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:40am
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Originally posted by Corbett
OMG. Yes, someone hinted at the crime. Once you have told her you wanted to get out of the car, she should have let you out. If she didn't, you were ABDUCTED which is a felony!! If a man & woman hit it off in a bar & go somewhere for sex, if she (even during sex) says no he better stop. After that, it is rape!
You were abducted and should report it.
date rape in a car is hardly comparable to catching a free ride to work and getting mad because you have to listen to "black music" and ride with "African American ladies". I know some people would think they are one in the same, but it's not. sorry.
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Posted By: MrV
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:42am
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Originally posted by Elemental
I agree that this was a horrible situation and no driver should threaten to not let you out of the car, but there are certainly parts of this situation that you could have handled better to avoid the escalation. Your body may be more sensitive to sound & heat because of the pregnancy, but that is your responsibility to be aware of this and "slug at your own risk". It is not the driver's responsibility to accommodate your pregnancy. Perhaps if the pregnancy is causing you to be this sensitive, then slugging is not a good option for now.
You are incredibly lucky that the man in the next car picked you up and gave you a ride, but why would you even knock on the window of a stranger's car in traffic and ask him to give you a ride? I understand you are upset, but if you are already so scared, it seems even scarier to get into the car with a complete stranger in traffic. You are very lucky that not only did he give you a ride, but he wasn't a crazy person or a kidnapper. At least when you get into a stranger's car at a slug line, there is a mutual understanding of where you are going.
well said. oh yeah - one thing you mite want to suggest/add to your post is if she is a closet racist she might want to pass on rides when the driver of the car is an "African American lady"
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Posted By: MrV
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:46am
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that'll be enough anger and racism here.
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Posted By: Our Mom Spot
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2010 at 2:45pm
Wow...this conversation is...interesting.
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Posted By: Pele
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2010 at 3:03pm
He's just butthurt that he got his crap handed back to him in the other thread where he was complaining about his little man suit getting wrinkled by a bad 2 door car because he was too stupid to pass the ride up.
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Posted By: trapps
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2010 at 1:08pm
Lol i'm just amazed that this conversation is still going on.@Deep Don't you think we have enough hate and racism in the world? I'm very sorry you had a bad experience with a driver while slugging in her car. Now you have people watching out for 2 black women in a BMW???? You have sluggers profiling people! The story sound onesided from the begining. But for future please just describe the car and license plate if you really need to put it out there. It does sound like a little hate going on your part. It couldn't have been that hot that early in the morning and for the one that said it was a crime for the driver to not let you out of the car(crime)??? It's more of a crime to put her on the side of the Highway pregnant than riding her to a safe spot while she complained and cursed the whole way. When you slug in someone else car headphone are a must.
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Posted By: jadams08
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 8:12am
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Originally posted by Pele
....his little man suit...
still funny! LMAO! [:D]
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Posted By: Pele
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2010 at 2:57pm
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Originally posted by trapps
Don't you think we have enough hate and racism in the world?
...You have sluggers profiling people!...But for future please just describe the car and license plate if you really need to put it out there.
Content of her story aside (Because I think it's bogus too.) I didn't see any hate or bigotry in it. She didn't use the "N" word.
I believe it's acceptable to use race as a descriptor.
Approximate age, race, size of build, and gender are all appropriate ways to describe people.
Listen to police some time when they give out a description of suspects... They also use the same characteristics.
I suppose police are all racists as well.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday)
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Posted By: trapps
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 8:29am
Pele: you don't have to use the (N) word as you put it to seem like you are being raciest. Yes police use race when they are searching for suspected criminal. Key word suspected. They are the law and have some kind of justification for putting out that information. Not what seems to be a one sided story. I just think we should not encourage people to start profiling each other for what seem like a bad ride. I have not seen anyone else on here say 2 black ladies also gave them a bad ride and treated them bad. I think it was isolated and a personality clash. Lets just leave it at that :)
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Posted By: Pele
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 9:24am
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Originally posted by trapps
Pele: you don't have to use the (N) word as you put it to seem like you are being raciest. Yes police use race when they are searching for suspected criminal. Key word suspected. They are the law and have some kind of justification for putting out that information. Not what seems to be a one sided story. I just think we should not encourage people to start profiling each other for what seem like a bad ride. I have not seen anyone else on here say 2 black ladies also gave them a bad ride and treated them bad. I think it was isolated and a personality clash. Lets just leave it at that :)
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Okay, let's get crime out of the picture... Let's say you're looking for someone in a crowd. How do you describe them?
Maybe she should have left out the gender of the people. Maybe she's inferring that all women have bad attitudes. Maybe slugs should start profiling people by gender.
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Times to beat:
Horner Rd to/from Pentagon: 12 mins Without Slugs - 17 mins With slugs
Dale City exit to/from 3rd St Tunnel, D.C. 18 mins (No slugs - Holiday)
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Posted By: Checkers
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 10:30pm
White, Black, Red (Native American), Yellow (jaundice), Pink (sunburned), Brown (White - tan? Black - tan? Red - tan? Yellow -- good to get some sun; Pink -- get out of the sun) --
We're all a mix of all of the above, and related, to boot. According to the record, we are all descended from two who blew it.
Gives one pause, don't it?
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Posted By: AngloAustrian
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:52am
Oh my goodness, so much arguing about how to describe someone. The fact is, we do need to describe dangerous drivers somehow. The police handle it by using race (Cauc, African American, Hispanic etc), skin color (light, dark, etc), age, height, weight, hair color and style, any other distinguishing features. To stop short at “African American” and their approximate ages is not enough information for anybody to get an idea of what the “ladies” really looked like and was, in this particular lament, pointless other than to foster stereotypical preconceptions. I think we should all agree that if we are going to describe a dangerous driver and, after all, the whole point of posting unpleasant experiences on this web site is to help other sluggers avoid danger, then a description is necessary unless one is absolutely sure that the driver always uses the same car (in the case of dangerous driver) and an accurate description of the car is given. Of course, if a passenger is dangerous, how else to describe him/her? By their briefcase? That might work if it’s really different (neon pink?) and you are sure they always carry it!
However, just as a Caucasian driver would be described as being olive skinned, or fair, or tanned, or sunburned; tall, short, fat, thin; blonde, red haired, brown haired, bearded, bald; large nose, hook hand, tattoos, golden/missing teeth; eyepatch, etc., then all people should be described in the same detail. But just to describe someone by their race alone with maybe one other qualifier (age, in this case) is not sufficient and not at all useful to the community. After all, how many “African American ladies in their 30s or 40s” do we know? And how does this description help us? It would be akin to describing me as a “Caucasian woman in her 40s.” Wow, that’s really helpful if you want to pick me out in a crowd.
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Posted By: trapps
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 12:54pm
Anglo you are 100% correct. All that does is cause sluggs/riders to racial profile. If you must put it out there a car decription and plates should be used. That e-mail it casting a dark cloud over what has been a very succesful system of getting people to and from work no matter what your race is. Suck it up and move on. If you feel like you don't feel comtable anymore getting in cars with certain races then that your call but please don't share that. You are spreading hate.
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