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Topic: HOV enforcement
Posted By: DC2RV
Subject: HOV enforcement
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 6:59am
We had a thread on this before the database got corrupted, so I'm resurrecting it in light of the number of violators both in the AM and PM.

In the AM, solo drivers continue onto the HOV portion of 395 past Edsall in the AM and there never seem to be any police out.

Similarly, violators merrily get on 395S and continue to the HOT lanes with no cops in sight.

As someone, who like many others, constantly jumps through whatever hoops VA puts us through simply to get to and from work (riding with and picking up strangers, paying for HOT transponders, etc...) it gets increasingly annoying when scofflaws continue to get away with breaking the law.

So, WHERE'S THE ENFORCEMENT???



Replies:
Posted By: scottt
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 8:33am
I have yet to see a single cop (morning or afternoon) since the HOT lanes went active.


Posted By: eao
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2015 at 6:33am
I have seen a few, mostly in the afternoon. I have seen one single driver pulled over though I'm not sure why. At 3:30-3:45 there is a long line of cars getting off at Edsall so some people are following the laws.


Posted By: GregP
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2015 at 9:42am
I'm fairly new to slugging and must say I'm shocked at the number of single occupant vehicles I've observed riding in the I-395 HOV lanes in the evening (4:30 pm) - and they don't even have special plates. Some don't even have an E-ZPass affixed to their windshields (which isn't required on the I-395 lanes anyway, but nonetheless).

I'm simply amazed at how many drivers are either ignorant of the law(s) or feel entitled to do what they wish. Since the Express lanes opened at the end of December I also see far fewer LEO's along I-395 HOV lanes and at exit ramps.


Posted By: billybaru
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2015 at 11:12am
I witness countless violations of the HOV-3 rules daily. Zero enforcement. Who can we lobby to get police to start issuing tickets ? Not sure about you guys but my commute time has been getting longer.


Posted By: GregP
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2015 at 1:05pm
BTW, I wish non-HOV commuters would be prohibited from utilizing the stretch of southbound HOV "entry lanes"(?) across the 14th St. Bridge and other points and then exit on the right side exits onto I-395 (prior to the Pentagon) in order to cut around southbound traffic leaving the city.

From my observations and experience, they significantly slow HOV outbound traffic and pose a hazard by sometimes causing backups on the exits onto I-395.


Posted By: eao
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2015 at 9:38am
quote:
Originally posted by GregP

BTW, I wish non-HOV commuters would be prohibited from utilizing the stretch of southbound HOV "entry lanes"(?) across the 14th St. Bridge and other points and then exit on the right side exits onto I-395 (prior to the Pentagon) in order to cut around southbound traffic leaving the city.

From my observations and experience, they significantly slow HOV outbound traffic and pose a hazard by sometimes causing backups on the exits onto I-395.



I use that portion of 395 on Fridays when I have to leave from 14th & C since I can't make a left from Independence. I feel that it is much safer to exit onto Rt. 1 to go to Alexandria from that stretch of road than trying to cut across 3 lanes of traffic on the main lanes which are crowded with buses and tourists as well as commuters, even at the time I travel them. There rarely seems to be a delay at that time I am on the road.

BTW I saw a Va. state trooper pulling over a single driver with no Ez-Pass just south of Edsall Rd. this morning at about 5:45 am - I was a passenger in a car. So they are out there.


Posted By: emancilla
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2015 at 1:58pm
A co-worker who lives in the Lincolnia area once confessed me she used to drive the HOV lanes across the 14th St. bridge at around 4:00 p.m. and exit at Lincolnia Rd for years to avoid the regular lanes traffic because she had to be at a certain time at her house due to her daughter dropping off her grandson for her to babysit, and never got caught. It boiled my blood a little bit when she told me that because her daughter was putting her in that predicament of getting a ticket so she can have it easy. It was also her own fault for not knowing to say no.


Posted By: scottt
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2015 at 8:26am
quote:
Originally posted by eao

BTW I saw a Va. state trooper pulling over a single driver with no Ez-Pass just south of Edsall Rd. this morning at about 5:45 am - I was a passenger in a car. So they are out there.



Must have pulled him over for something else. Perfectly fine to be a single driver, south of Edsall Rd in the morning without an EZPass. The express lane people will just send you a large bill, but no law against it.


Posted By: mpatoka
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2015 at 9:26am
The majority of the police pull-overs I've seen involve either semi-trucks or people pulling trailers in the HOT lanes. I believe they are not allowed at anytime in the HOT lanes though I've never seen signage stating that. They used to be allowed in the HOV lanes.


Posted By: eao
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2015 at 12:17pm
I read something once that trucks would not be allowed on the HOT lanes, but I don't recall where or when. I never really understood when they were allowed on the HOV lanes. I recall sometimes seeing no trucks on the signs, but not since the lanes switched to HOT.


Posted By: natsslugger
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2015 at 3:35pm
I plan to write to my Fairfax County supervisor, my state rep, my state senator, and directly to the Virginia State police to complain about the lack of enforcement.

A few years ago, they did an HOV enforcement day. They had state troopers and local police at the end of every on-ramp in the AM literally checking every car to see if they had 3 people. We need that again. I am sure it scared a ton of people. They should do those at least quarterly, and unannounced.

You think with the fines they can generate combined with local budget cuts that they'd have an incentive.


Posted By: DC2RV
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 6:57am
An idea would be for rookie troopers to work that stretch on a commission basis. Talk about easy income... :)


Posted By: gatewayslug
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 9:43am
quote:
Originally posted by mpatoka

The majority of the police pull-overs I've seen involve either semi-trucks or people pulling trailers in the HOT lanes. I believe they are not allowed at anytime in the HOT lanes though I've never seen signage stating that. They used to be allowed in the HOV lanes.



I looked last night going south and again this morning going north (the entire length). There is a sign before each entrance to the HOT lanes (in some cases two signs) that clearly states in large letters "2 Axle Vehicles, Buses only".


Posted By: eao
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 6:18am
Maybe they need to simplify that to No Trucks beyond 2 axis or something.


Posted By: billybaru
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 9:21am
The POLICE were out in force this Morning enforcing HOV rules!!!!! I was VERY surprised..........April Fools !!!!!!


Posted By: vaterri
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 7:09am
I too am outraged at the number of violators in the HOV portion of 395 both AM and PM. Who do we contact to express our discontent? I personally sent an email to the Express Lane email address at VDOT -- NO reply at all. It is causing a ton of congestion, especially in the PM. They are simply "racing" down the HOV to get to the EZPass lanes in hopes they is no enforcement. Guess what, they are right!!!


Posted By: GregP
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2015 at 11:46am
quote:
Originally posted by eao

quote:
Originally posted by GregP

BTW, I wish non-HOV commuters would be prohibited from utilizing the stretch of southbound HOV "entry lanes"(?) across the 14th St. Bridge and other points and then exit on the right side exits onto I-395 (prior to the Pentagon) in order to cut around southbound traffic leaving the city.

From my observations and experience, they significantly slow HOV outbound traffic and pose a hazard by sometimes causing backups on the exits onto I-395.



I use that portion of 395 on Fridays when I have to leave from 14th & C since I can't make a left from Independence. I feel that it is much safer to exit onto Rt. 1 to go to Alexandria from that stretch of road than trying to cut across 3 lanes of traffic on the main lanes which are crowded with buses and tourists as well as commuters, even at the time I travel them. There rarely seems to be a delay at that time I am on the road.

BTW I saw a Va. state trooper pulling over a single driver with no Ez-Pass just south of Edsall Rd. this morning at about 5:45 am - I was a passenger in a car. So they are out there.



You make a good point for the Rt. 1 exit to the left. I forgot about that one.


Posted By: DC2RV
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2015 at 7:22am
There were lots of missed revenue opportunities this AM.



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