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Topic: Hybrids in HOV
Posted By: Cool Slugger
Subject: Hybrids in HOV
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2003 at 11:23am
Hello everyone. As a new member but a very long time slugger, I would like to add my two cents to the hybrid issue in the HOV lanes. Originally the HOV lanes were set at HOV4. Then Congress got involved and put a rider on a piece of legislation, without a lot of us citizens aware, that changed it to HOV3 as a TEST. But as everyone knows in this town, the test became reality and HOV4 was changed to HOV3. Over the years I have seen the HOV lanes gradually increase in traffic, but manageable. Motorcylces were added which has added some danger since they tend to zip in and out and speed. Now we have to contend with the Hybrid cars and they are definitely part of the cause of the increased congestion in the HOV lanes. The other 2 reasons are an increase in legitimate carpools and a lot of "cheaters". I agree with many other writers that the HOV lanes were created to relieve congestion -- to get the cars off the road (parked somewhere) which in turn has the added benefit of less air polution. Hybrids are just adding to the congestion, period. I want them out of the HOV lanes.
Cool Slugger



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Posted By: GeeseAreGood
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2003 at 2:01pm
First off, just let me say that I think the admin is a Nazi and does not like Geese.

I agree the Hybirds are crowding up the place, but they were told that they could use HOV and bought them because of that, but there is a time limit. If we let them on, then they should be allowed to continue, even pass the limit, but perhaps there could be a grandfather rule.

Note that the rule isn't if you have a hybird, but rather one of those CF thingis on your license plate.

I would rather not have a CF on my license plate, because in another internet group I belong to, CF stand for "CFag" as in Fag (like a homosexual).




quote:
Originally posted by Cool Slugger
[br]Hello everyone. As a new member but a very long time slugger, I would like to add my two cents to the hybrid issue in the HOV lanes. Originally the HOV lanes were set at HOV4. Then Congress got involved and put a rider on a piece of legislation, without a lot of us citizens aware, that changed it to HOV3 as a TEST. But as everyone knows in this town, the test became reality and HOV4 was changed to HOV3. Over the years I have seen the HOV lanes gradually increase in traffic, but manageable. Motorcylces were added which has added some danger since they tend to zip in and out and speed. Now we have to contend with the Hybrid cars and they are definitely part of the cause of the increased congestion in the HOV lanes. The other 2 reasons are an increase in legitimate carpools and a lot of "cheaters". I agree with many other writers that the HOV lanes were created to relieve congestion -- to get the cars off the road (parked somewhere) which in turn has the added benefit of less air polution. Hybrids are just adding to the congestion, period. I want them out of the HOV lanes.
Cool Slugger



Posted By: C. Lam
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2003 at 5:04pm
So if you put a CF on your plate the goose is cooked ?
I use to have a VIP on my plate until the P wore off.
Now I have to ride around town being known just as a VI.


Posted By: mirangus
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 7:28am
quote:
Originally posted by GeeseAreGood
[br]First off, just let me say that I think the admin is a Nazi and does not like Geese.

I agree the Hybirds are crowding up the place, but they were told that they could use HOV and bought them because of that, but there is a time limit. If we let them on, then they should be allowed to continue, even pass the limit, but perhaps there could be a grandfather rule.

Note that the rule isn't if you have a hybird, but rather one of those CF thingis on your license plate.

I would rather not have a CF on my license plate, because in another internet group I belong to, CF stand for "CFag" as in Fag (like a homosexual).


First of all, CF means "clean fuel." I cannot honestly say that seeing a clean fuel plate ever made me question one's sexual identity. Perhaps you should take a hard look at where you spend your time on the internet.

Secondly: Yes, this is a public forum, for everyone to voice their opinions, and yes, public does mean everybody. So here's my two cents. I must say (and I do not say this lightly), you are a Moron. Capital 'M' Moron. This forum is for people who are truly concerned with helping or learning about the slug system. You do neither. You waste our time with your B.S. posts and your pathetic, obviously small-minded opinions. The site administrator is by no means a Nazi and I, for one, applaud him for deleting your crap.

So go ahead...we all know what's coming up next. Now you can boost your posting rating with 50 of your idiotic posts trying to tell us why you're not a Moron.

Grow up.


Posted By: sancochojoe
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 8:05am
I disagree with you all blaming Hybrids. I don't have a a hybrid, but they are not the reason for over congestion on HOV.
This is a continual attempt to blame a small few for congestion
on the HOV's. I've heard it all.
Hybrids
motorcycles
Police officers commuting to work
Parents with children (argument is only workers should use HOV

I wonder who will be next.

Has anybody ever thought that the congestion is due
to more people moving furture away from DC into places
like Fredricksburg, stafford, etc, due to over inflated house
prices which may be
causing the HOV numbers to rise.



Posted By: RW
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 8:35am
quote:
Originally posted by sancochojoe
[br]I disagree with you all blaming Hybrids. I don't have a a hybrid, but they are not the reason for over congestion on HOV.
This is a continual attempt to blame a small few for congestion
on the HOV's. I've heard it all.
Hybrids
motorcycles
Police officers commuting to work
Parents with children (argument is only workers should use HOV

I wonder who will be next.

Has anybody ever thought that the congestion is due
to more people moving furture away from DC into places
like Fredricksburg, stafford, etc, due to over inflated house
prices which may be
causing the HOV numbers to rise.





I believe the focus is on the future. Now hybrids are not a big problem, however in 10 years when every other car is a hybrid, it will be a problem. It's plain and simple. HOV is designed to take cars off the road. Allowing hybrids on HOV does not do that. Maybe we should allow all green cars on HOV or if your car only holds two people, then we should allow those as well. The rule needs to stay consistent, high occupancy vehicles are to ease congestion on the highway by reducing the number of cars on the road. This will particularly apply in the future as more and more people are moving south. Just my opinion.

rw


Posted By: sancochojoe
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 8:43am
Well that is why they gave Hybrids a time limit on the HOV of 2006 because they see the potential numbers increasing. They initially set it at 2004 and saw the numbers are not there whatever they may be, but I'm sure they have that in mind. But until the gas prices make purchasing SUV's or other vehicles that drink gas like water and make them impractical, the numbers of hybrids will continue to be low and they may continue to be HOV qualified.


Posted By: JiggaJynx
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 9:14am
quote:
Originally posted by mirangus
[br]
quote:
Originally posted by GeeseAreGood
[br]First off, just let me say that I think the admin is a Nazi and does not like Geese....


...So go ahead...we all know what's coming up next. Now you can boost your posting rating with 50 of your idiotic posts trying to tell us why you're not a Moron.
Grow up.



Mirangus, thanks for saying what needed to be said. Admin does a great job keeping this forum on track and WITHOUT annoying ads.


Posted By: tdar20
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2003 at 12:36pm
Well Put Mirangus.......Geese your wasting valuable time and space.


Posted By: GeeseAreGood
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2003 at 12:37pm
Poor Geese, poor poor Geese; but they are so good.


quote:
Originally posted by tdar20
[br]Well Put Mirangus.......Geese your wasting valuable time and space.



Posted By: C. Lam
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2003 at 7:38pm
Exactly what kind of geese to you raise ?
I already know that they are good geese,
but what are thier roots. Canadian maybe ?


Posted By: rufustfirefly
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2003 at 1:55pm
hybrid geese? what did i miss?


Posted By: GeeseAreGood
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2003 at 4:59pm
These are Hybird Geese, not hybrids.

They are mostly white domestic Geese. Embens and Chinas, and a few crossed. The King of the lot is named Jack!


Posted By: MDC
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2003 at 10:01pm
Why do wild geese like horse farms so much? They do a good job eating the horse manure, but why do they do that?


Posted By: Koolbus
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2003 at 5:19pm
I blame the SUV as the main problem with traffic. They should be banned from the highway for the hours of 8 to 6. Don't be grumpy at the tree hugger that rides a green machine, or the biker, blame that big ride you and all of your friends and neighbors SUV. Take the bus.

Take a ride on the Kool Bus.


Posted By: mirangus
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2003 at 8:57am
quote:
Originally posted by Koolbus
[br]I blame the SUV as the main problem with traffic. They should be banned from the highway for the hours of 8 to 6. Don't be grumpy at the tree hugger that rides a green machine, or the biker, blame that big ride you and all of your friends and neighbors SUV. Take the bus.

Take a ride on the Kool Bus.



Koolbus-I see your point, but another way I look at it is this: My SUV carries anywhere from 4-6 passengers per day and those are people that have parked their SUVs at the commuter lot and decided to slug. Plus mine actually gets used to haul things in the line of work. So, there is actually some good that can come out of owning an SUV (depending on what you use it for).


Posted By: suchaladie
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2003 at 12:46pm
I agree with your assessment. Sancochojoe you have nailed this one that is the only logical answer to the traffic problem. Therefore, my question to you is what is some suggestion to deal with the traffic problem. [?]

I disagree with you all blaming Hybrids. I don't have a a hybrid, but they are not the reason for over congestion on HOV.
This is a continual attempt to blame a small few for congestion
on the HOV's. I've heard it all.
Hybrids
motorcycles
Police officers commuting to work
Parents with children (argument is only workers should use HOV

I wonder who will be next.

Has anybody ever thought that the congestion is due
to more people moving furture away from DC into places
like Fredricksburg, stafford, etc, due to over inflated house
prices which may be
causing the HOV numbers to rise.



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Edited by - sancochojoe on 27 Oct 2003 08:07:31


Posted By: sancochojoe
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2003 at 11:18am
not much can be done with the actual HOV lanes. Exits 143 to 126 should have planned for larger traffic due to the increase population moving from the city to country. Instead of road planning that should have included other options going south besides route 1, profit was chosen instead and they chose to build strip mall and shopping centers right off the exits which has caused unbelievable traffic jams. Some exits eat up the whole right lane of 95 for a quarter mile which slows down the flow of traffic in the other lanes. They should create exits that exit straight into the HOV lots.

There are many "indirect" changes that could be made to help the flow of the HOV Lanes, but I beleive many of the planners and decision makers live within the beltway or Richmond and have no clue.

But nooooo. They preferred Shoppers, and Best buy right at the stinking exits. amazing.


Posted By: tri2dc
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2004 at 10:45am
Hybrid are cheaters, just legalized cheaters


Posted By: adjguy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2004 at 9:44pm
Can we give up on the hybrid debate?


Posted By: tdar20
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2004 at 7:22am
No such thing as "legalized Cheaters." Either your within the law or not. Until the law is changed they are within the law. Seems to be the end of the debate.


Posted By: Stuck2
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2004 at 9:00am
This is actually a funny thread.

Let's blame people for the congestion and end it at that.


Posted By: ering
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2004 at 11:57am
Well this is fairly ridiculous but you do need to get one thing straight. He's homophobic, not racist. Gay is not a race.

quote:
Originally posted by ktzmom
[br]let's blame congestion on the southern migration of Canadian geese.

BTW Geese, 2 words: THERAPY WORKS. Save your racist rantings for another forum.

MJ Outland



Posted By: pplmvrs
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2004 at 2:48pm
why are people responding to comments that were made last year??


Posted By: uhura.
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2005 at 8:22am
I don't know



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