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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qorc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2005 at 9:59am
yes, because having "non-drivers" in the cars counting as slugs does not help congestion one bit.

I'm all for it - motorcycles don't reduce congestion, hybrids don't, and CHILDREN don't either.

Should be a rule - HOV-3 adults, period. No matter what you're driving. At least let's be consistent, if you really want to reduce congestion.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MDC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2005 at 3:44pm
Three persons is good enough for me, and it appears that 99% of everyone agrees. I'm leaving it at that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamest001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2005 at 3:47pm
The main rationale for allowing motorcycles in the HOV lanes (in addition to fuel efficiency), is reduced parking congestion in the metropolitan areas served by HOV lanes. You can fit at least four or five motorcycles in the same space a car occupies (even hybrids).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tdar20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2005 at 10:32am
People are people......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qorc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 2005 at 6:52am
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Originally posted by jamest001
[br]The main rationale for allowing motorcycles in the HOV lanes (in addition to fuel efficiency), is reduced parking congestion in the metropolitan areas served by HOV lanes. You can fit at least four or five motorcycles in the same space a car occupies (even hybrids).



which may help parking lots, but does nothing to help traffic congestion...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SuzAnne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2005 at 12:51pm
But riding alone in YOUR hybrid does?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qorc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2005 at 8:25am
you obviously haven't read.

Sure, remove the exemptions for hybirds. I know this will happen sooner or later

BUT AT THE SAME TIME remove the exemptions for motorcycles and for non-adults counting as slugs.

if you're going to be pure about improving traffic congestion, try at LEAST to be consistent about it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MDC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2005 at 9:55am
So unless everyone agrees with Qorc that kids shouldn't count for HOV, we shouldn't do anything about the biggest problem.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote qorc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2005 at 11:35am
nope. You can do both. You can do either.

But the people here that use their kids as "slugs" to cart them off to daycare or wherever, and DEFEND their right to use HOV, are hypocrites to the core.

Why does discussing this issue so threaten some people here? Because they have a self-interest in preserving their own options, while attacking others for doing the same.

and we call that??? begins with an "h"....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sluDgE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2005 at 12:43pm
[?] Anyone know for sure what the rationale is for allowing motorcycles an HOV exemption? [?]
[B)] If it is to provide the mo'bikes a less-congested, safer environment over the regular lanes, does that rationale apply anymore with the increase congestion on HOV? [B)]

Just wonderin'.

Keep on sluggin'! [:)]
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