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Arbo
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210 Posts

Posted - 16 Oct 2002 :  15:54:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd would tend to agree that we presently have about enough parking spots AT THE PRESENT TIME. But what about 2-3+ years in the future, when they have finished Augustine, Amy Clay, Apple Grove, and whatever other subdivisions they're currently working on out on West 610? Now is the time to plan ahead! I myself would be winning to pay a buck a day to park in a 2000 car garage. Why couldn't the County BOS or some ask the developers putting in the mall if they'd be willing to build a pay garage under their own parking lot, or as part of it, for the commuters? the answer just may surprise us. Even $2/day would only be about $40 a month (still cheaper than driving or the metro or the bus ...). If 1000 cars park there every business day, we'd be talking $20-$40K minimum per month income for the garage.

Just thinking...

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Matrix
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101 Posts

Posted - 07 Nov 2002 :  11:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What ever happen to this? Did the Rappahannock Commision take a look at our advice?
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Debby
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1 Posts

Posted - 07 Nov 2002 :  16:50:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If they are taking away the shuttle for good, I think the late commuters (drivers and slugs) might as well go to the new lot, like beginning at 7 or 7:15 am. I have no idea about getting to the new lot at night, in the dark, safely, unless the driver is kind and will take you there. Or, the move of Rosslyn/Pent/CC to the new lot would be good.
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shelbybrynn
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230 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  11:10:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's quite obvious that the Planning Commission, Board of Supervisors, etc. are not going to be able to do anything to help the adverse parking/traffic situation on Route 610. The Mine Road lot is spacious but it's location makes it a bad option for alot of people. Especially now that it gets dark earlier and the weather has been wet and cold. Noone I know wants to try to cross 610 and there is no guarantee that your drivers are going to take you to the new lot on Mine Road especially since it is very hard to merge over to the left lanes in gridlocked traffic (even if you use the second light).

A great solution for many of us will be to start using the Route 630 commuter lot on Dec. 2nd. My slug buddies and I have been slugging from there for a month and a half and we love it!! It is so easy to get in/out of and it saves us alot of our valuable time. If you are a driver or a rider and would like to join us on Dec. 2nd, please respond to Matrix's Route 630 poll or email her at rachelkorinek@msn.com or korinek@rand.org. That will in turn help the 610 folks who feel it is more convenient to slug from there because it will free up some parking spaces for you if we get a good balance between the two lots. So if you live further south of Route 610 and want a better option, please join us at the Route 630 commuter lot on Dec. 2nd and don't forget to participate in the poll!!
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Arbo
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210 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  12:08:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anybody know what came out of the 5 Nov Stafford Board of Supervisors Meeting I wasn't able to make the meeting.
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Matrix
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101 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  13:07:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All I know is that the shuttle bus was eliminated. You can contact the BOS administration for meeting notes.
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peedee87
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22 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  14:19:30  Show Profile  Visit peedee87's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There you go again Shelly!
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crystalslug
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13 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  14:39:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Spoke with Gary Pash on Thursday (7 Nov). He indicated that the traffic situation for the PM rush at 610 will be greatly helped by the new exit which will be built as part of the new mall. Mine road will have its own traffic flow separate from westbound 610. This is scheduled to take affect summer 03. The bigger picture for the two lot situation on 610 will be left to the drivers and slugs which have always found solutions to problems in the past. The mine road lot will prosper for those whom it serves best just as the current 610 lot has prospered for its users. I utilize the mine road lot (with no problems AM or PM) and other users numbers are growing every week. As the county grows, so will the usage of all three Stafford lots.

crystalslug
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shelbybrynn
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230 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  14:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by peedee87[/i]
[br]There you go again Shelly!



Actually it's Shelby not Shelly and I feel that educating people of all of their options and the pros/cons of each is the purpose of this website.
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DC_Slugger
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95 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  15:39:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been using the Mine Rd. lot since the closing of Properity Lane and have had absolutely no problems AM or PM. I only used the shuttle bus 2 times since they ran it...and only for the purpose of giving it more riders. Generally drivers were more willing to go to Mine road than the Old 610 lot. I will continue to use Mine Rd without the shuttle bus because I don't think that getting a ride will be difficult...it wasn't before the shuttle bus...it won't be after.




Think!
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Matrix
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101 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  15:43:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I attended the Stafford Town Hall meeting last month, only a handful of people came. When the BOS, unveiled their plan regarding Route 610 everyone agreed that it was not a good solution. They intend to put another traffic light on Route 610 and a traffic light off the exit ramp from I-95S traffic. This is only going to back up traffic to Route 1 and even further onto I-95. What are the vdot engineers smoking? To top it off, the BOS said that their "solution" is only good for 3-4 years. I'm sorry... whoever is in charge of the plans regarding the road system in Stafford County is not doing their job. When the shopping center right off the 610 exit is complete, traffic is going to be even worse.


First of all, there should not be two commuter lots off of 610. There should be only one and it should house at least 1500-2000 cars. Even better, have a ramp go directly into the lot. Unfortunately, our BOS don't plan for the future. I see the attempt to start the shuttle bus as a cover to make some people think "they care". If they care so much, why aren't they more widely publicizing their town hall meetings? What would it cost for them to put up a banner publicizing the town hall meetings? Last week I had to slug from 610, everyday I spoke to my fellow slugs and drivers about the town hall meetings - no one even knew they existed, many said they would have like to have gone, and many admitted that they are fed up with the congestion on 610 and poor planning for the commuter parking lots.

Did anyone see the article in yesterday's paper titled "Stafford shuttle scrapped?" In it Gary Pash, BOS, suggests that all slugs should move to the Mine Road lot. The fact of the matter is that while there some people willing to move to the Mine Road lot, many are not.

When exiting I-95S, gridlock already exists on Route 610. Can you imagine how worse it would be if the several hundred of cars, returning home in the evening, attempt to make that first or second left to the Mine Road lot? My time and my life are more valuable than that.

In regards to 610 versus 630, I use both. It just so happens that 630 is only 2 miles south of 610; they are not galaxies apart. I am a concerned Stafford County Resident and slug. Any suggestions concerning the 630 lot is intended to ease the congestion at 610.

If you are concerned about the future of the Mine Road, 610, or 630 lots I invite you to attend the next Stafford Board of Supervisors' meeting. In fact, maybe you would like to get the word out - that is what I have been doing the last month and a half.

Edited by - Matrix on 08 Nov 2002 16:15:40
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shelbybrynn
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230 Posts

Posted - 08 Nov 2002 :  16:20:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Matrix for hitting the nail on the head!! I totally agree with you. Educating people about all of their options is the way to go because it will only help to alleviate some of the congestion at the parking lots on 610. Obviously the people who find 610 more convenient should continue to go there but there are a lot of people who do not find it more convenient and who deserve to know that there are other options available to them. Kudos to Matrix because she does care about the current situation and she proves this by attending the scheduled meetings.
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Slugster
New Member

8 Posts

Posted - 21 Nov 2002 :  19:47:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to let people know that there is some new discussion on splitting the lines at 610, under the "Proposed New Slug Line Locations" forum. Please take a look and give us your thoughts!
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