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Jody
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 Posted - 09/26/2006 : 11:50:21
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Hello everyone. I just joined the board. For the past 30 yrs. I've commuted either by carpool, vanpool, or slugging.
Does anyone know the statistics on Hybrid sales in this area once they lost their HOV exemption on July 1st?
Your posts have been fun to read. |
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SpongeBob
Advanced Member
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Posted - 09/26/2006 : 11:54:53
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| Michelle McQuig's latest e-newsletter had the stats. They showed a drop off in hype-bred purchases after July 1, but that was only to be expected. It would be better if they kept selling well without the exemption. |
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SlugsB1tch2Much
Average Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 17:55:12
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| Finally, an end to this post? Is NoSUV done? |
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scottt
Moderator
415 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2006 : 09:37:33
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[i]Originally posted by PennyPrius[/i]
[br]I still say the argument over HOV is more convenience than ecology. The HOV lanes ease congestion and conserve fuel at the same time, slugs or not.
Cars get better fuel economy when they are running and moving as opposed to sitting and idling in traffic. Allowing (for now) hybrids an exemption is easing congestion, increasing total fuel economy of any given rush hour (although not as much as carpooling does) and is good for the environment. 3 people in a 15 MPG vehicle is 45 MPG same as in a SOV hybrid. It doesn't ease the congestion issue but it is a wash for MPG.
For Hybrid's, that is wrong wrong wrong. Take a look at the window sticker of a Hybrid, they get better gas mileage in town (traffic) than they do while crusing on the hwy. |
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PennyPrius
Junior Member
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Posted - 09/27/2006 : 09:42:23
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I am getting 43 MPG on strict hwy driving. I compare that to a car or suv that gets 15 MPG. What exactly is wrong with what I stated before?
In one year of ownership living in PW county, I get better mpg on the hwy than I do in "city" driving. I think "City" has a different definition according to the EPA because my experience is as I said, better mpg on the hwy. |
Edited by - PennyPrius on 09/27/2006 09:47:43 |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 09/27/2006 : 21:18:24
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[i]Originally posted by SpongeBob[/i]
[br]Michelle McQuig's latest e-newsletter had the stats. They showed a drop off in hype-bred purchases after July 1, but that was only to be expected. It would be better if they kept selling well without the exemption.
Total Toyota sales for hybrids just hit 60K US wide. How many vehicles in NoVA express lanes? Far, far less. Need to complete the environmental benefit by banning all vehicles not alternate fuel from the express lanes. Do you think the environment will benefit? Buy a hybrid or get on the bus. |
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scottt
Moderator
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Posted - 09/28/2006 : 08:24:36
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[i]Originally posted by PennyPrius[/i]
[br]I am getting 43 MPG on strict hwy driving. I compare that to a car or suv that gets 15 MPG. What exactly is wrong with what I stated before?
In one year of ownership living in PW county, I get better mpg on the hwy than I do in "city" driving. I think "City" has a different definition according to the EPA because my experience is as I said, better mpg on the hwy.
As I said, look at the window sticker of your Prius. You'll find the city mpg is higher than the hwy. Why? In bumper to bumper traffic you are running mostly on battery, not gas.
If you go by MPG, Hybrids belong in the regular lanes, not the express lanes. |
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 15:44:13
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| Fill your hybrid's seats with slugs or get on the bus! |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
1076 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2006 : 15:59:12
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[i]Originally posted by raymond[/i]
[br]Fill your hybrid's seats with slugs or get on the bus!
Get on the bus or buy a hybrid. raymond - your kids (and grandkids) are the ones who are going to suffer because you put your head in the sand. |
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 10:43:58
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I can't afford kids, I'm saving up to buy a hybrid because NoSUV said I should.
BTW, you're one to talk about dumping eco-problems onto the next generation. Your rolling landfill time-bomb will cause as much or more eco-damage as any other vehicle on the street. Hypocrit!
Fill up your seats, make some friends, or get on a bus! |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
1076 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2006 : 11:11:48
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raymond - if you'll recall, I used the articles you provided the links to and proved that the landfill problem doesn't exist. Also, you previously stated that you provide a taxi service for your kids.
Get on the bus or buy a hybrid! |
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CatHerder
New Member
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 12:58:20
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Here's some interesting info on Batteries. The never-ending and annoying bickering between hybrid owners and regular car owners is driving this forum to the ground.
http://www.hybridcars.com/hybrid-battery-toxicity.html
http://www.batterycouncil.org/recycling.html
Greener Pastures for Car Batteries
The carmakers are waiting in the wings. Toyota and Honda place decals with a toll-free number on their hybrid battery packs. Toyota offers a $200 bounty to ensure that every battery comes back to the company. In a press release, Toyota states, "Every part of the battery, from the precious metals to the plastic, plates, steel case and the wiring, is recycled." Honda arranges for the collection of the battery and transfers it to a preferred recycler to follow their prescribed process: disassembling and sorting the materials; shredding the plastic material; recovering and processing the metal; and neutralizing the alkaline material before sending it to a landfill.
Honda, Toyota and the entire auto industry are pumping millions of dollars into research regarding lithium ion batteries for tomorrow's cars. Their primary motivation is to reduce the cost and increase the potency of hybrid batteries. Fortunately, supplanting lead and nickel batteries with rechargeable lithium batteries is also promising from an environmental perspective. Instead of clogging landfills with more toxic chemicals, hybrids—especially future hybrids powered by lithium ion batteries—may represent greener pastures for car batteries.
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slugjo
Junior Member
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 15:17:09
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| seems to me it's only one hybrid owner involved in the bickering. |
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Posted - 10/10/2006 : 15:51:22
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| Yea Cat, I read that to, on Toyota's website! I'm sure Toyota's website is going to publish an objective pro/con discussion about the 400 pound battery packs in their hybrids that willb e headed to landfills in a few years. Not! They want to sell cars! |
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NoSUV
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10/10/2006 : 16:22:46
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[i]Originally posted by raymond[/i]
[br]Yea Cat, I read that to, on Toyota's website! I'm sure Toyota's website is going to publish an objective pro/con discussion about the 400 pound battery packs in their hybrids that willb e headed to landfills in a few years. Not! They want to sell cars!
Neither site is Toyota's. |
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