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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carleric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 10:52am
Read the WTOP article. It makes an excellent point - you cannot do enforcement on the on ramps because violators are only in violation once they reach the highway itself. It is not illegal for them to be on the on ramps.
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Does anyone have a good contact for the VA State Police, so that we may all send in a kind note??
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[br]Okay it makes sense to have to have the violator in the lanes before they can ticket, BUT how many exits from HOV are there between Dumfries and DC? three? four? so why not wait for them on the exit ramps. If they are exiting they have been in the lanes. :)


Because if they wait to do the busting at the off-ramps, all of you who complain about the backups from enforcement/no enforcement down south will complain about being backed up at the off-ramps. The boys in blue can't win!!!

My suggestion... If you think you can do a better job enforcing the HOV, quit your current job, earn the badge, and put your plan in action. In the meantime, be grateful for the enforcement. You guys say there isn't enough of it as is.





I rarely complain about enforcement. When they have done them in the past traffic was nowhere near this messed up. And yes I have sat on the merge lane at the END of the HOV while they were doing enforcement and it hasn't bothered me one bit.

I think our guys in blue do have a tough job, but all those officers this morning was a bit OVERKILL.
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I just sent my email complaint off too asking them to come up w/ a better solution. After all that is what they get paid to do. I know they aren't the brightest bulbs in the package but come on, the HOV has been here long enuf where they can figure this out on their own time and not make us legit commuters suffer!
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Curtis Bailey is the public affairs officer and the one they quoted in WTOP. I emailed him. His info is: curtis.bailey@vsp.virginia.gov
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[br]curtis.bailey@vsp.virginia.gov




Ok....everybody put this e-mail address in your favorite "free porn daily via e-mail" list. That'll teach him!!! Haha. j/k, of course
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This is the letter I sent to VDOT, The Washingtonpost, Gov. Warner and the Va State Police:

Although I heartily agree in principal with enforcing HOV restrictions, there must be a better way of doing so without causing over 100,000 people to be late for work. This morning myself, the three other people in the car with me and the 50,000 or so other cars (most of which were carrying a minimum of four people) in the HOV lanes of I-95 were delayed by at least an hour because of HOV enforcement.

I'd like to know how the proceeds from HOV violation tickets reconciles with the hundred thousand or more man-hours lost by this debacle.

Those of us who play by the rules, car or van-pool, use slug lines or drive hybrids should not be penalized for the actions of the relatively few who violate the law. Is there no way to enforce these restrictions other than severely impacting the commutes of law abiding drivers? Especially during a week in which the only alternative transportation system, VRE, was rendered dysfunctional due to track and switch problems. For crying out loud, does no one in your office read the news?

Patrick Bergin
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Highland Technology Services Inc.
202-586-7504
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Thanks for the trooper email. I sent off my "note", lets hope others do the same!
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If this was the State Police's solution to dealing with HOV violators, then we need some new police. This has to be the most boneheaded thing I've ever seen.

How about posting officers at exits where traffic is slow anyway - and maybe use some technology like a red-light camera? Maybe some really stiff fines would help - like 1 violation = $500, 2nd violation you lose your license for 6 months.

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It would have been worth it if I had seen one of the Hybrids without proper credentials pulled over, but I didn't.

I guess I was lucky that it was only backed up to Lorton at 6:30.
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