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scottt
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quote: Not sure where you drive, but I drive in the HOV lanes (during rush hour), where the traffic during the summer moves at 80mph. Now that the kiddies are back in school and everyone is back from vacation, Tuesday I won't be doing 80mph. On the weekends, around the beltway, I also do about 80mph (traffic permitting). |
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ScarletLSG
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Scott,
You should know that RIGHT NOW, VA State Police are actively pursuing speeders, especially in the HOV. How do I know this? Because I got a ticket this week. AND in the state of VA, 80 mph and over is considered reckless. I was going 81 ... there was MINIMAL traffic, wasn't weaving in or out of lanes and was clocked. I got NOT ONLY a speeding ticket, but also a reckless endangerment citation. Because of the reckless, I MUST appear in court and cannot just send in the fines. UGH. I now have my cruise set at 70 mph ... even though *I* think I'm safe at 80, Virginia doesn't. I can't afford to lose my license. The patrol officer told me that while they ARE targeting violators, they are EQUALLY targeting speeders ... and aggressively. ScarletLSG quote: |
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Dhacim
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Hey Ronin....
Jacka$$! (yeah I said it, and if the shoe fits, where it) what is that about. Again, maybe you should lay off the cocktails before work, but at 80 miles an hour in the very uncrowded HOV lanes in the morning you don't have to weave, in fact, if you cruise in the left lane, you will find yourself yielding to many that are trying to push up your bumper....Definitely not that I'm in a hurry to get to work in the morning, but I would say those that are driving 60 or less in HOV, present more of a hazard than those of us driving 75-80.... |
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Sheepish
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quote: The "me-first" mentality is a big problem around here! Whether it's vehicle speed, lack of turn signal use, lack of space left between cars, or the weaving in and out-- it's not the "few" but the "many" who now demonstrate a total disregard for anyone else by their actions and bad driving habits. To even suggest that a driver creates a hazard by doing less than 60 mph on HOV is another indicator as to the disregard that many have for the very rules that were created to keep people safe while on public roads. I used to find driving slugs provided me a calm start/end to my work days. Not so anymore now that I am noticing my jaw hurts from clenching my teeth, or that my hands are stiff from gripping the steering wheel so hard because I am constantly having to react to the bad habits of others. |
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Dhacim
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So Sheepish...
In your opinion a driver that is going below the speed limit, hanging out in the fast lane of traffic is exhibiting proper driving technique and not creating a hazard?? By that logic, it is actually the slow driver that may be causing some other driver who is perhaps doing 70, to change lanes to move around them, or "weave." Also, tickets are issued for impeding traffic. Albeit, not as frequently as speeding, but it is a violation none the less, and I assure you equally as dangerous. I also would argue that every driver thinks he/she/it is the best driver on the road, and everyone around them is a bad driver... I will say this, I have never had someone complain about my driving, actually quite the contrary....I have many, many repeat riders, and they happily get in my car every morning....Perhaps, you and Ronin should ride the bus, if a good ole DC commute causes you to clench your teeth......Settle down and enjoy the ride! |
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Sheepish
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Dhacim,
To clarify my comment for you, you stated "I would say those that are driving 60 or less in HOV, present more of a hazard than those of us driving 75-80....” and I stand by what I said in response to those words. Those words demonstrate a disregard for the rules. Do I have a problem with "floaters" in the left lane? Unless they are passing a vehicle, or making a left exit off the road, then yes I have a problem with that. They can "float" along at their speed in the right lane. There is no point in arguing about perceptions a driver has on their own/others' skills, no-one in this world is perfect. The point I was trying to make is that *too many* people are demonstrating irresponsibility when they get behind the wheel. Oh- and how thoughtful of you to offer the suggestion of taking the bus! While I would expect Ronin and I to thoroughly enjoy a hearty discussion on the "me-first" mentality, why don't you join us as the driver of the bus so you can accommodate so many more with your exemplary driving skills? [;)] |
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ronin718
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Dhacim, if the other drivers are doing the speed limit, then those who are doing 80-90 mph ARE the hazard. I understand the speed limit in the HOV lanes is 60 or 65 (I don't drive 395, so I don't personally know except from other posts), and nowhere in the state is there a posted speed limit of 80 or greater. For the majority of the roads in NoVA, your 80 MPH is 25 over the limit. Since you want to get personal, I'll say it like it is. YOU are the hazard, and other drivers like you. Speed limits are established for a reason, and not merely to inconvenience. If you want to consider me a long-eared, slow-moving beast of burden because I choose to abide by the posted limits, then give me my carrots and send me on my way. I guarantee my brake pads will see less wear and tear then yours.
Yes, "floaters" are a problem around here, and they should get their happy butts over to the right when not passing. However, NASCAR wanna-bes are a greater hazard on NoVA roads than Miss Daisy on a Sunday cruise. Let me share a little something with you, Dhacim. Both of my cars have organizational tags on them, and they have two letters --- FP. I'm retired from that arena now, but I'm sure if you want to give me your vehicle description and tag number, I can pass them on to some fellow members to watch for your low-flying excursions. Oh, and by the way, I do ride the bus occasionally, but only when I can't get my usual ride in. Perhaps you should try it yourself. It's amazing how the stress levels drop when you aren't trying to muscle your way through law-abiding traffic. You can also choose which group of knuckleheads to count --- the HOV violators or the NASCAR wanna-bes. |
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pb1974
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Eighty mph does not have to be a dangerous speed. If you are driving like an idiot (weaving, cutting people off, tailgating), then any speed is dangerous. However, it is entirely possible to do 80 around here, even in the mornings, without resorting to weaving and the like (I drive in from Fredericksburg, so my experience may be different than others'). I am also of the belief that slow drivers are just as dangerous as the fast ones. Sorry, but that is my opinion.
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vabigblue
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I certainly agree that everyone has their own opinions, but tell me - where does one constantly drive 80-85 MPH around DC or within a 50-75 mile radius? I don't think one can do it weekdays, weekends, holidays, early morning or late evening. There is too much traffic on the roads to jeopardize yourself, or more importantly, someone else. Granted, it can be done, but not safely. Again, that's my opinion.
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MDC
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Nobody's mentioned the Metro busses going 45MPH in the HOV lanes. Why is it that some Metro busses go 65, and others are going 45? Every other day it seems that traffic goes from ~65 to about 25mph due to these busses somewhere south of the Pentagon.
Omniride bus drivers are also BAD drivers. I think every one of them moves to the left lane before the Pentagon exit and then cuts back over where the exit ramp is. Weaving in and out of lanes to pass a few cars is also one of their specialties. |
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