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P8R10TZ
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I have NEVER seen shopping affect parking at PM. PM designated those particular spaces because they would affect their shoppers the least. [:)]
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WBSlug7
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Thanks MDC! There's no way the shoppers could intervene with commuters. And if people are worried about their cars getting dinged up...what do you think is happening at Horner? How are cars parking in every which way any better at avoiding dings? As for it not being a county lot, when PM decides to take their lot back then we will worry about it. Again PM is an alternative, if PM was gone I'd use 123 or somewhere else. It doesnt hurt to try it for a week THEN see how it goes. Stop thinking of the negatives and focus on solutions.
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MDC
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RoadRunner,
There aren't any shoppers before the mall opens. The spaces used by the commuters are rarely used by shoppers due to their location. Even in December the commuters will be gone before the shoppers would want to use those spaces. |
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Bob
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A lot of people are encouraging the use of Potomac which is fine. However, I might add that Potomac is not a county lot, and the owners of PM could change their parking policies without county approval. The point I would make is that the county needs to keep ahead of the game with the county lots before we get 2000 cars at Potomac and the the mall changes polices.
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aaron_the_prince
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I agree with WB. Although, ticketing illegal parkers at Horner may initially seem like a drastic measure. This issue is convienience. And, ticketing more illegal parkers at HOrner would be a certain incentive to get them to rethink their lot loyalty to Horner Rd. Ticketing illegal parkers will force Horner uses to seek alternatives to their usual routine. There are alternatives that commuter may actually find less painful than using Horner, its just that they are used to the pain of Horner Rd. And, finally, the county's excuse for not expanding lots like 234 or further expansion to Horner is that there are lots, like Potomac, that are not being used to even near capacity.
Whether they start ticketing Horner parkers or not. I am beffudled as to why anyone would want to put up with the hassle of Horner Rd, given the increasing congestion and headaches. I know I am using PM now. |
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WBSlug7
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I think it is perfectly fair for the police to be able to ticket illegal parkers. Maybe in the future ALL of the commuter lots will be overcrowded, but that isn't the case here. Lots like Potomac and 123 are very much vacant, and with the spill over form Horner it still wouldn't even fill one of those lots to capacity right now. When the time comes that we really have nowhere to park then I will say it is unfair, but even then there are always solutions. The point is that many of the lines aren't just exclusive at Horner, so it is only a convenience issue we are struggling with here. Since I too am just a newbie, I don't know how the public has dealt with communicating to others either. I just see problems arising and want to help solve it for everyone's sake.
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koakui
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I think word of mouth is a good way and I've been trying to do that and promote Potomac when I ride with people. I've seen people are slowly turning around. I think it will take a bit of time. As for encouraging the police to ticket people, I think that is a bit unfair. We may actually get into a situation in the very near future where every lot is full and if we have the police sniffing around the lots looking to ticket, we will have lots of people getting tickets for no good reason. I don't think it is fair to punish people. Slowly the turnaround will come, we just have to be patient and give it time. More people are starting to use Potomac and probably the other lots too. I agree with the majority of people on the board though - 123 is a bear to get to and that in and of itself is a 30 min. commute!
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gsteele
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Do we have any statistics to show how many in the slugging community (drivers and riders) frequent these boards? I’m relatively new to slugging and it amazes me how well this de-centralized system works, but a grass roots effort to make a change would seems difficult if 25% of the slugging community does not use a forum (like this one) to keep up to date on slugging issues. The problem seems to be one of mass communication. Are there other ways to get the word out of a Horner exodus? Could we hang/distribute flyers at Horner to inform people of the alternative? Ad in local papers? Sorry if this is a newbie comment/suggestion.
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spolastre
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quote: WBSlug7, you might have to go to the county for that. |
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WBSlug7
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Can someone tell me who I can contact at VDOT regarding Horner/slugging situations?
Here are my objectives: 2. Have VDOT implement destination signs for the lines at lots, or get permission to put one up ourselves. I think by having posted signs there will be less confusion about whether a line is still running or not when it's empty. It will also help out newbies or those wanting to try alternatives. I believe there are ways to make slugging even better if people are willing to put some effort into it. As useful this site is I feel in order to reach the public about things we need some other solutions. Anyone with me? [:)] |
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