Recent Backups on the HOV

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   Hear!  Hear!  I agree.  VA has made it way to easy for the single drivers, including an early lifting of restrictions (6pm). Years ago it was 6:30pm and allowing them onto the HOV at Edsall Rd to go a few exits.  (People say that it is because of the Springfield Interchange construction, but this was in effect waaaay before that started.) Letting the single drivers on at Edsall Rd.literally stops the HOV and the regular lanes are just zipping right along.  Way to go VA.  These decisions do NOT promote carpooling.

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	[br]Allowing the hybrids on the HOV is just one other thing to add to the long list of bad decisions on the part of the State of Va. and the Feds agree, at least they did a couple years ago.  I read an article a couple of years ago that the Feds (I believe it may have been the National Highway Safety Administration) informed VA that they would deny the state federal highway monies if they did not get the hybrids off the HOV lanes for the reason stated by MIT -that they do not meet the objective of the HOV - getting more vehicles off the road.  The decision-makers seem to often lose sight of the big picture. 

	As for the back up, this is the first year that there has been a consistent back up in the HOV lanes.  I can't even imagine what the HOV lanes are going to be like in even another year unless VA smartens up and gets rid of the ridiculous exceptions.

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gsm Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 04 Jun 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote gsm Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 3:33pm
	Hear! Hear! I agree. VA has made it way to easy for the single drivers, including an early lifting of restrictions (6pm). Years ago it was 6:30pm and allowing them onto the HOV at Edsall Rd to go a few exits. (People say that it is because of the Springfield Interchange construction, but this was in effect waaaay before that started.) Letting the single drivers on at Edsall Rd.literally stops the HOV and the regular lanes are just zipping right along. Way to go VA. These decisions do NOT promote carpooling. quote: Originally posted by RM [br]Allowing the hybrids on the HOV is just one other thing to add to the long list of bad decisions on the part of the State of Va. and the Feds agree, at least they did a couple years ago. I read an article a couple of years ago that the Feds (I believe it may have been the National Highway Safety Administration) informed VA that they would deny the state federal highway monies if they did not get the hybrids off the HOV lanes for the reason stated by MIT -that they do not meet the objective of the HOV - getting more vehicles off the road. The decision-makers seem to often lose sight of the big picture. As for the back up, this is the first year that there has been a consistent back up in the HOV lanes. I can't even imagine what the HOV lanes are going to be like in even another year unless VA smartens up and gets rid of the ridiculous exceptions.

Mit Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 07 May 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mit Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 3:22pm
	You missed the point, but I'll take the blame 'cause I don't want to add to all that anger.

adjguy Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote adjguy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 2:51pm
	Hey Mit, from one smug to another, thanks for your opinion and your positive approach to this whole problem, and I appreciate you respecting my opinion, and right to express it. Did you miss the part where it said I too am a slugger and have been for years? Ive been "expanding my horizons" (other than my waist size) for some time now. See you at the Gas pump

RM Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 25 Feb 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote RM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 1:30pm
	Allowing the hybrids on the HOV is just one other thing to add to the long list of bad decisions on the part of the State of Va. and the Feds agree, at least they did a couple years ago. I read an article a couple of years ago that the Feds (I believe it may have been the National Highway Safety Administration) informed VA that they would deny the state federal highway monies if they did not get the hybrids off the HOV lanes for the reason stated by MIT -that they do not meet the objective of the HOV - getting more vehicles off the road. The decision-makers seem to often lose sight of the big picture. As for the back up, this is the first year that there has been a consistent back up in the HOV lanes. I can't even imagine what the HOV lanes are going to be like in even another year unless VA smartens up and gets rid of the ridiculous exceptions.

Mit Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 07 May 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mit Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 1:02pm
	Well adguy. The whole point of the HOV was to get more cars off the road, so your arguments are not on point, although I'm sure you will come back with something just as off point. P.S. You seem awfully angry and smug. Loosen up. I know. How about picking up some slugs and widening your horizons.

adjguy Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote adjguy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 9:50am
	Amen Sir! [:D]

WBSlug7 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote WBSlug7 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 2004 at 8:28am
	Gotta love civility! Now that we've all let out some steam, can we get back to solutions and not more bickering? My solution is to leave a bit earlier and expect some waiting on the HOV lane. Someone on another thread mentioned it's a pattern that the HOV lanes crowd up around the school year, so I'll have to tough it out until next summer. Forget Horner Rd, use Potomac Mills!

adjguy Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote adjguy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2004 at 3:48pm
	Well Gang, you told me. You got me whimpering away with my tail between my legs. I failed to mention that I do slug 2 days per week from Horner to Rosylyn, take the metro from Roslyn to West Falls church, and the 28A or B bus from West falls church metro to Tysons Corner, and have been doing so for three years. I understand that the wording of my paragraph indicated "every day", it was not accurate. If I werent a slug, I wouldnt be wasting my time on this great website I am not anti slug, I am just tired of all of the complaining and the snear looks I get when I am in my Hybrid three days per week. I alternate with the wife to and from work. Mr. Spongebob, I must comment on your articulate writing skills, espec. involving the name calling "smug". Very well thought out, and the Smug word, I couldnt have chosen a better one. You are obviously an intelligent and witty person, that I wouldnt want to tango with in a shouting match, so You I will definately avoid. I myself am a victim of the public school system, and am not nealy as well spoken as you. Thank you all for the opportunity to speak on this forum. It is not every day that you get called names, but well worth the debate. Geezhead, well I dont know what to say to you. I think you need to come back to reality. as for the "egocentric" word use, I will not dis-agree with you, I have been called worse. Congradulations on picking up the slugs everyday, I probably have riden with you at one point or another. Sponge--As for the HOnda, I have one too. They are great cars. I own a civic DX coupe, 1995 white in color. look for it in the horner road lot tuesdays and Wed. Take care of it, it will not break. Thanks again all. Happy motoring. See you at the gas pump

SlugBuddy Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 21 May 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote SlugBuddy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2004 at 2:40pm
	Well said Spongebob and Geeze!!

Geezehead Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Geezehead Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2004 at 10:02am
	adjguy - SpongeBob hit most of it but to add. Pick up someone else, then no one could give you the salute. As to parking lots? Once the exemption is gone Hybrid drivers will still drive, just because of their self absorbed, egocentric attitude towards life. Thanks for not taking a parking spot. I don't take a spot either, but I pickup to bring my total to 3 people - again, if you accomplished this simple task you would be in compliance as well. Instead you insist on turning 95 into a parking lot.....