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   OK, so can you stand a post from a biker who regularly runs HOV from Stafford?  I (thankfully) opted to run the mainline yesterday morning. Turned out to be a good idea. I felt for all of the bikers trapped in the HOV lanes, sidled along the shoulder letting their scoots cool. Ridiculous.

	Personally, I would like to see lane splitting legalized on HOV. Similar accommodations are in place in California.  For certain you can count on this happening the next time the State Police resort to such buffoonery.  (The old 'fool me once' addage comes to mind here.)Course, if similar enrcement strategies are utilized beyond next July 1, we all may not even notice.

	Ride on.

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Lone Wolf Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Location: Va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lone Wolf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2005 at 9:30am
	OK, so can you stand a post from a biker who regularly runs HOV from Stafford? I (thankfully) opted to run the mainline yesterday morning. Turned out to be a good idea. I felt for all of the bikers trapped in the HOV lanes, sidled along the shoulder letting their scoots cool. Ridiculous. Personally, I would like to see lane splitting legalized on HOV. Similar accommodations are in place in California. For certain you can count on this happening the next time the State Police resort to such buffoonery. (The old 'fool me once' addage comes to mind here.)Course, if similar enrcement strategies are utilized beyond next July 1, we all may not even notice. Ride on.

sluDgE Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Status: Offline Points: 501	Post Options Post Reply Quote sluDgE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2005 at 8:34am
	A poll .... [?] With all this publicity on enforcement, do you think the number of violators will drop significantly? [?] [^] In our commute from Burke this morning we didn't see a single violator between the VA644 on-ramp and the P'gon. [^] [:)] Keep on sluggin'! [:)]

Bob Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Dec 2001 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2005 at 8:04am
	Article on yesterday's fiasco in the Fredericksburg paper (Friday) http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2005/082005/08192005/123296

msticaries Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote msticaries Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2005 at 7:53am
	Spotsy, you checked the VDOT website re: fines? Moody: If you have kids tell me you have NEVER once thought of killing the little boogers. not that I ever would. :)

sluDgE Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Status: Offline Points: 501	Post Options Post Reply Quote sluDgE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2005 at 7:05am
	Local TV news gave yesteray's I-95 HOV enforcement & backup a lot of coverage last night. HOV's becoming famous! [;)] Keep on sluggin'! [:)]

Moody Girl Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moody Girl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 5:01pm
	quote: Originally posted by msticaries [br]Look at it this way, every time I want to kill one of my kids, it could be argued that I INTEND to kill them, but until I acutally do. . . thus one must be in the HOV Lanes before being ticketed. Nice analogy...and to be quite honest, a little scary.[B)] ShahedC seems to understand exactly what I was saying. Once you hit those ramps you have no choice but to enter the HOV lanes and therefore you ARE in violation.

SpotsySlugBug Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote SpotsySlugBug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 4:41pm
	Msti, I don't think so, I checked the VDOT website. [;)]

EnufisEnuf Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EnufisEnuf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 4:38pm
	I agree with you cdatkins. They should change it. There was no reason for what happened today. 122 has a point though, the boys in blue aren't the smartest bunch and I think he would know!

122582 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote 122582 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 4:23pm
	So do you want enforcement or not? Cops were just trying to do a job. Maybe they didn't do so well this morning, but law enforcement just doesn't attract rocket scientists.

cdatkins Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote cdatkins Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Aug 2005 at 4:15pm
	They should simply change the law to say that the entrance ramps are, actually, the HOV lanes. Then they can enfore on the entrance ramps. But I find it hard to believe the statute wasn't written to include attempted HOV violation, which a person would be guilty of if they were on an enclosed, one way entrance ramp without 3 riders or the requisite hybrid plates.