SCREW the main lanes

The real solution is to make the regular lanes toll lanes and leave the HOVs alone and free. Congestion pricing is the only real way to make people understand the cost of driving alone. Maybe some day when we have 24 hour traffic jams the politicians grow some spines and look for real solutions. They need to stop it with the proposals that are doomed from the beginning and only useful for making it appear that they are doing something.

I like Wagonman's idea. Reduce congestion by tolling the regular lanes, and leaving real HOV free.

NoSUV, maybe in YOUR mind that is the logical conclusion to where my logic is leading. But that's your opinion. My conclusion is right where I left it, NOBODY that has less than three allowed in, and the single-drivers change their attitude. You and your hybrid can go out into the "lord of the flies" main lanes or else start doing something to reduce the CONGESTION, not the pollution! In case anyone needs to be reminded again, the HOV lanes were intended to solve this area's biggest issue, CONGESTION. They weren't designed so that single drivers could just switch what type of vehicle they drive and then clog up the lanes like they do out in the main lanes.

NoSUV, if you want to get personal, we can, I fully welcome it. You remind me of those people during the election that when confronted with an argument too difficult for them simply blurted out "LIAR".

I assure you I can get my mind to work, and more importantly, better than yours. First of all, your post is fragmented, poorly written, and presents unsupported logic that you are assigning to me, although you are the one that created it. I'm not slow enough that you can resort to creating arguments that I have not presented, such as your "buses only" stream of logic. ONCE AGAIN, HOV should be for three or more ONLY. You can fit three in a car right? A car is not a bus right? Are you able to follow?

I said nothing about pre-1974 conditions of the HOV, so that is just bizarre that you assume I did. I said nothing about "buses only", so once again, you are bizarre.

Also, what does "ridership in HOV-40 = and," mean?? It is poorly written and makes no sense in the English language. Is that supposed to be some sort of crafty retort that is proving your point? I'm sure if you asked 99% of the people on there they would just say "huh?"

Let me reiterate, my point is that the HOV should be for 3 or more in a VEHICLE only and the real solution is the one that selfish people like you can't fathom, stop being an idiot and driving by yourself.

Oh, and NoSUV, I can understand your anger. I mean, I would be angry too if I dropped 30K on a compact hybrid car so that I could continue to drive by myself (if that was my character, which it isn't) and then realized that I completely wasted my money because I am going to be either right back out with the wolves in the main lanes or else I would have to pick up slugs anyways. It must hurt to think about what you could have done with that 30k instead of dropping it on something that was driven by such selfish reasoning in the first place. Of course, I held onto my money. Too bad for you.