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NoSUV
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CatHerder
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From the discussion of dumping batteries, I was wondering where ALL the car batteries go, not just the hybrids'. I also found out that Virginia has statutes that state the batteries have to be recycled to X%. I'm not sure Maryland has the same statute. Probably this won't make the repair shop dispose of an old battery correctly, but hopefully they will.
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CatHerder
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November 2005
ConsumerReport.org Dispose of old car batteries properly Forty-three states now prohibit old car batteries from landfills and incinerators, to keep their harmful lead out of the waste stream, according to the Battery Council International, an industry trade group. Nearly 40 of those states also require retailers and distributors to collect used batteries from consumers for recycling (visit the Battery Council International’s Web site, atwww.batterycouncil.org/states.html to view details for your state). You can help the recycling effort by leaving your old battery where you buy your new one. Many battery retailers also accept one or two old car batteries even if you don’t buy your new one there. Alternatively, you might be able to leave your old car batteries at a hazardous-materials collection center; your state’s environmental protection department or your municipality should help you find one. |
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Bob
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Isn't it an amazing coincidence that all of the postings that support NoSuv are from brand new members? Really incredible!
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CatHerder
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Nope don't support NoSUV. Just say NO to NoSUV's crazy notion that toll roads are a good idea. BUT the talk made me look into what does happen to batteries from all cars. Remember too that there are two types of batteries out there and likely to be more as they try to move away from lead batteries that are in the average car. So it does raise the question of pollution and how is this being handled by the auto makers. In general.
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NoSUV
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quote: Bob, Does that mean that you are also raymond and slugjo? |
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Jody
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Jody here again. I agree with Scott's post re: Hybrids in the regular lanes. If the issue is to ease congestion (less cars) on roads, the HOV lanes should be for cars that carry 3 or more occupants. Hybrids should be required to pick up at least one rider to access the HOV lanes.
JMO. Flame away if you want. |
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NoSUV
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Jody - as you've noticed, the congestion in the express lanes is insignificant compared to the congestion in the regular lanes. And I'm sure you're aware of the concerns about global warming, and how a significant portion comes from cars. What you may not know is that only 1.7% of all vehicles in 2005 were hybrids. VA used to be one of the few states interested in protecting the earth for subsequent generations by providing a non-financial non-taxpayer supported incentive for people to buy hybrids instead of vehicles causing so much damage to the environment.
Many, scottt being one of them, have complained on this board that the cost of a hybrid vehicle is too much for them to voluntarily help the world of the future. Imagine the demand for hybrids if they were the ONLY vehicles allowed in the express lanes! What would happen to the commute? Eventually, mass transit will be both used more and be more effective (is that a bad thing?) and more private vehicles in use for BOTH commuting and non-commuting would emit fewer greenhouse gases (also a positive). The question comes down to what is more important: your selfishness or saving the world. |
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N_or_S_bound
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Jody,
What some espouse as a "solution" to the MANY challenges associated with the Northern VA commutes is to restrict the HOV lanes to busses and SOV hybrids thus ensuring that the greatest number of people (slugs and drivers thereof plus carpoolers) are inconvenienced to the benefit of the least number of people (SOV hybrid drivers). This is somewhat akin to the many alternative government systems in the world that make sure the masses are ensuring a luxurious way of life for the elites. Welcome to the board. Realize some folks postings are worth responding to. Yours was since you're new and realize the MANY challenges associated with commuting in NOVA and apply a common sense approach to moving the greatest number of people in the least time, thus achieving an all around feasible solution for the majority---much as a democratic form of government should work. NoSb SOV because you can, HOV because you care! |
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n/a
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Thanks NoSb, for stating in your usual eloquence, that a solution must be widely applicable or it will not be successful. Forcing everyone to buy a hybrid, or to ride a bus to save gas is about as realistic as forcing everyone to wear a hemp halter top (which NoSUV may actually look good in, but I certainly would not) to save the soil. Forcing anyone to do any one thing is not only unrealistic, it is by definition radical, and down-right communist!
For a solution to be successful it must be widely accepted, and in order for it to be widely accepted it must require small behavioural changes from adopters. Few car buyers can rationalize the several thousand dollar hybrid premium against dubious ROI estimates in gas savings, and a debatable ecological cost/benefit argument. Hybrids require a huge change in personal economics, a buyer's leap of faith in the technology, and a tremendous amount of trust in hybrid marketers. None of these are small behavioural adjustments! I'm not surprised that hybrid buyers defend their buying decisions with such zeal, they have a lot riding on it! But that does not make the rest of the population wrong for not accepting these terms. In the USA, we have the right to be cautious and make decisions that differ from our neighbor. Respect our differences, and we may just return the favor! |
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