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[br]I just can't believe how many hassles hybrid vehicle owners still have to go through to get subsidized for their environmental efforts. It'll probably be a while still before governments realize the urgent need to promote cleaner vehicles as much as possible. I think a sustained letter writing campaign will at least help to improve the situation. You'd be surprised how far a thoughtfully composed letter can go if directed to the right people.

http://www.energyplanet.info/Hybrid_Cars/
http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/technology/hybrid-cars/



Hi data, so what environmental efforts are hybrid drivers making? Are they recycling? Are they carpooling? Are they running ethanol, biodiesel or another renewable alternate fuel in their hybrids? And why should anyone need to be subsidized for doing something good for our environment? I thought hybrid drivers were altruistic in their purchasing habits?

I agree that the government should promote cleaner vehicles that use renewable alternate fuel sources. But don't be hoodwinked into believing that hybrids are the answer; they burn fossil fuels and pollute just like any other car (unless of course they are burning ethanol).

Good luck on your letter writing campaign!
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scottt,

True ... but PEPCO-like companies are gonna run power plants anyway (be they fossil-fueled, hydro, coal, solar, wind, nuclear, or otherwise).

BTW, here's the website for Tesla Motors (the maker of the all-electric roadster).
http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

Cute car! [:)]

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[br]We saw on TV that there's a 100% electric sports car that a private company is producing. It's very sporty 2-seat roadster (looks kind of like a Lotus) that goes several hundred miles between charges and can top 120 mph. Of course, it costs about $90K.

Now, there's a no-emission vehicle that's probably worthy of a VA CF plate. It doesn't burn one drop of fossil fuel.



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We saw on TV that there's a 100% electric sports car that a private company is producing. It's very sporty 2-seat roadster (looks kind of like a Lotus) that goes several hundred miles between charges and can top 120 mph. Of course, it costs about $90K.

Now, there's a no-emission vehicle that's probably worthy of a VA CF plate. It doesn't burn one drop of fossil fuel.
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datapencil,
If everyone abandoned their carpools and bought hybrids to drive alone, it would be an environmental disaster and you know it. Hybrids are not the solution. If you think people driving solo their Lexus GS-450h or RX-400h is progress(examples only, applies to all hybrids), then you're a fool.
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I just can't believe how many hassles hybrid vehicle owners still have to go through to get subsidized for their environmental efforts. It'll probably be a while still before governments realize the urgent need to promote cleaner vehicles as much as possible. I think a sustained letter writing campaign will at least help to improve the situation. You'd be surprised how far a thoughtfully composed letter can go if directed to the right people.

http://www.energyplanet.info/Hybrid_Cars/
http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/technology/hybrid-cars/
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As for your other question, my understanding is that lane capacity is a max of 2000 vehicles per hour. So in THEORY a 2 lane road over the 3 hour HOV period could handle 12000 cars (assuming no 14th street backup). Since the hybrids are at least 25% (I think more)
we would be talking about 3000. But since not all are on the HOV every day, it is probably 4000 or so using the corridor, plus those using 66.
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Bob,
Didn't know that.
So, the number of exempted hybrids driving SOV on HOV will remain a constant - at least until the HOT lanes hit them with a toll.
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You may not know that the current owners of hybrids are allowed to buy a new hybrid at any time and transfer their plates. That should not be the case either.
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Does anyone know how many Hybids are actually exempt and grandfathered?
There can only be a certain amount of them sold prior to 1 July 06 that the extension applies to. And each of those cars will last only a few years before they wear out. So, the numbers of HOV3-exempt hybrids should dwindle eventually. That may be by the time that all SOV drivers (and probably the rest of us) will pay to use the HOT lanes (2011 or so?).
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