Is "Will Call" appropriate???

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   I think drivers have that right to pick up people that they know like friends or family instead of the person that is next in line.  I certainly don't want to catch heat from my friends for leaving them in the line.  I would never hear the end of it! [:0]

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dkerley Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote dkerley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Is "Will Call" appropriate??? Posted: 22 Jan 2003 at 10:12am
	I think drivers have that right to pick up people that they know like friends or family instead of the person that is next in line. I certainly don't want to catch heat from my friends for leaving them in the line. I would never hear the end of it! [:0] Dina Dina

tondalea Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote tondalea Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jan 2003 at 12:43pm
	I just had to put my two cents in. Just like others, I dont think it happens enough to really be a problem. If I were driving and saw a good friend or relative standing in line, I would call them out for a ride, but I would still go to the front and make sure to take two people.

n/a Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote n/a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jan 2003 at 2:52pm
	I travel from points in Springfield to Rosslyn and back everyday. There are no dedicated lines in either direction so I scout the Pentagon lines for people going to Rosslyn or proceeding to DC stops on the Blue line in the morning, and usually pick up slugs to Tacketts or Horner Rd in the evening (and backtrack to Springfield alone). I always ask for riders to my destination but will happily settle for the riders next in line going near my destinations when necessary. This is the best solution I have until more Springfield/Rosslyn commuters get together. Anyone else in a similar situation?

gg Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote gg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jan 2003 at 2:22pm
	Interesting idea for the morning commute, but I think everyone in line would know what the driver was up to and would possibly make people more disgruntled. How about the afternoon commute, should the driver call out the parking spot number to specify where in the parking lot is their intended destination? In my opinion and relative to other issues, I don't think "will call" happens often and so it does not significantly impact the "system". For example, drivers lurking the parking lots for slugs happens all the time and does impact the system. gg

kortegel Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Apr 2002 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote kortegel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jan 2003 at 9:26am
	I think I've found a wonderful solution for a driver that wants to exercise 'will call'...if they see someone further down the line that they work with why don't they just get really specific about their destination? Instead of saying something like, "Foggy Bottom" they could say "State Department" or an exact address...who would be able to argue with that? [?] K.O.

Arbo Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 28 May 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arbo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2002 at 4:25pm
	raymond - from what I understand, the AM line at 610 is a combined line for Pentagon, Roslyn, and Crystal City. So if that is the line you're talking about, its not a "will call" at all. Personally, I don't have a problem with "will call".

gg Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Location: va Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote gg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2002 at 1:59pm
	leblanc, Obviously, if everyone were principled or ethical in their choices, this would not be an issue. I'd like to believe that most people are fair. Like others, I've passed on friends and co-workers that drove up to the slug-line. Some people might think that was foolish, but to uphold the principle of slugging, I passed, not to sound altruistic but to not feel guilty. I've never been in the situation where my spouse drove up. I suppose if it did happen, it would be difficult to pass, but knowing the principles involved I'd pass and meet her at the destination point. Not much lost, but what if the stakes were higher, that is, what if it was a quarter to 6 PM and my wife left with the first slugs in line, but left me behind. I'd be upset if I did not get a ride back and had to wait and take the bus home. Yes, I would be ethical, no guilt, but not happy. So, what would be the right thing to do? Fortunately, this probably has never happened but in principle, it could. gg

n/a Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote n/a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2002 at 1:38pm
	This is rarely a problem. My example: If there was a dedicated line to Rosslyn, I would p/u riders there. But there's not, so I go to the Pentagon lines and ask. If someone wants to go to Rosslyn they can step out of line and ride with me, if not I'll take the next person in line to Pentagon. Usually no problem. Friends should carpool when they can. But if I see a friend in line that goes my way I'll ask others in front if they mind. Usually no problem. Remember: Driver owns the car - Driver sets the destination. What's the issue? Bottom line: Riders ride for free, drivers get to use HOV, what a great deal for both! Let's not forget that.

leblanc9425 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 06 Aug 2017 Location: Woodbridge Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote leblanc9425 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2002 at 8:40am
	I see nothing wrong with the "will call" practice. Although I've seen it excercised plenty of times, it's actually fairly rare. What's the difference if I happen to see somebody I know in line and then: park my car temporarily, walk up and get them out of line, get back into my car, and then drive back up to the slug line and call for the third person? I guess if I did this, people would not be offended because now I'm not excersising "will call" but the effect is still the same. Nobody gets angry if a driver arrives with somebody else in the car already right? So, I guess I could go through the gyrations meantioned above so that I have a car with two riders asking for the next slug in line. It's all about perceptions. If I were a slug standing in line and my wife happened to drive by and didn't "will call" me....grrrr, I'd have something to say about it! Of course there are limits to everything. I would not support will call if the practice was simply picking who you wanted to ride in your car from the line of people. This would amount to drivers cruising the line and picking out perhaps people they thought were attractive or the like...very bad.

USA Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote USA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Dec 2002 at 5:16pm
	I'm curious, would you challenge either the driver calling out a particular person or the person called by the driver who accepts the ride, and, if you would challenge the driver, what would your argument be? I'm just curious, as I don't go to 630. quote: Originally posted by shelbybrynn [br]The reason I have a problem with "will call" is that it is basically cutting in line. Say you are standing in the line at The Pentagon waiting to get home and the line is extremely long and it is freezing cold outside and a friend of yours pulls up and takes you from the back of the line and NOT the next person in line. To me that's not fair to all the people who have been waiting alot longer than you have. I have friends that I occassionally ride home with and we will arrange ahead of time for a different place to meet up. That is the responsible thing to do. I know I have personally turned down riding home with one of my good friends who I hadn't seen in a long time because I was at the back of the line and I didn't feel it was fair to the others. If we want the slug system to work for both riders and drivers, common courtesy is a must. We have been taught since grade school that cutting in line is not acceptable so why would we start doing it as adults? As far as "will call" being compared to rejecting drivers/riders it doesn't compare because that practice is done out of concern for safety and/or comfort levels (i.e. reckless drivers, the B.O. lady, or no AC in 100o heat) and I feel that should only be done in special cases because after all, it is a free ride.