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Dear EE,

From what I know, it is in the contract leases with the other stores and shops and such, especially the big ones like Steve & Barrys, JC Penney, Costco, Etc... These stores pay rent and a part of that rent covers them having so many spots, whether they are used or not. Though we all hope for full lots with a ton of shoppers in the mall. So you can imagine what happens when the mall gives 950 (tho they only have to have 275 for commuters) and one day there are nearly 1400 commuters in the lot. THe big stores were up in arms, their customers complained according to a friend who is an asst mgr at one of the big stores that there was no parking reasonably close for them to get to the store. So my friend said that according to their contract, the mall had to make sure X amount of spots were available in certain parking lots around the mall or the mall would face financial and legal ramifications for not holding up their end of their lease.
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First of all, I never said I didnt have a car. EE does not according to him/her. I do. A Prius. I also park where PM says for employees of the mall to park, which i might add is no where near any of the entrances but tis a nice 2 minute walk which is nice in the am.



But no, I am suppose to be you or someone named green or married to you or something like that.

Kinda hard to be you,or married to you when I live in Loundon County and you live in PWC.



Since you work at the mall you may be privy to this. Does PM tell business that rent from them that they have so many parking spaces for customers and employee's. I know at the strip mall where I catch the bus allocates so many spaces to the smaller shops in the strip mall, so the whole parking lot isn't just for the grocery store. Just wondering if PM does the same thing.

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Wayne,

What really got me was they are complaining when there is another lot that is perfectly usable but no one uses it because it happens to be out of the way or not convenient enough for them.

Again I was just trying to point out how it look to others. I could care less what PM does, as I don't live anywhere near there.


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What I said in my previous post was basically this, and no where did I say I parked in the lot ( if so please point it out. ) I did when I actually owned a car.

I work at a place that rents out some of the parking spaces to a few businesses in the area. If where I work at has something going on we cannot use those spaces, therefore making it difficult to park the cars that need to be park in our lot if there is a lot of cars that need to use it, then yes we block in those cars that pay to park there, however they do realize that we sometimes have to do that.

I also said that I couldn't get mad at them for parking in the lot because we allow them to do so, however they pay us and at anytime we can revoke that privilege, or if we have something very large going on and we really need those spaces we will have them move there cars for the time we need the spaces.



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First of all, I never said I didnt have a car. EE does not according to him/her. I do. A Prius. I also park where PM says for employees of the mall to park, which i might add is no where near any of the entrances but tis a nice 2 minute walk which is nice in the am.
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Again if I were Wayne then you would see it through they I write. People tend to write things the same way, even when they are pretending to be someone else, since it is the little mannerisms ( such as overly using caps lock, or some such thing )that give them a way. Oops maybe I gave away to much. Look I could care less if you think I am Wayne or not.

I was giving you someone else's perspective of the situation. I saw it on NBC 4 News yesterday morning, and really what ticked me off was the woman they interviewed, then the news showing empty lots just waiting to be used. It just screamed of entitlement to me. So I posted about it, not only here but in another forum ( you could find it doing a simple google search, and yes EE are the initials of my screen name there. ) My whole point was and still is, it makes sluggers/commuters come off very badly, PM is not coming off so bad for the simple fact that there is another lot that commuters can use but it sits empty because it is less convenient.

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I know what its like to go to a place of business and not be able to find parking because others have parked there for something completely unrelated to the place of business, they then lose my money and they sure aren't making money from the others. It sometimes happens where I work at, but then again we went out our parking spaces so we only have us to blame when our clients can't park.




Or maybe, just maybe I am actually someone completely different from those two considering I work with the dead, also I don't even own a car.





Wayne, now you say that you don't have a car and how about your previous post about your customer not finding spaces because you park there??? Or should I say Ms. Green?
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Again if I were Wayne then you would see it through they I write. People tend to write things the same way, even when they are pretending to be someone else, since it is the little mannerisms ( such as overly using caps lock, or some such thing )that give them a way. Oops maybe I gave away to much. Look I could care less if you think I am Wayne or not.

I was giving you someone else's perspective of the situation. I saw it on NBC 4 News yesterday morning, and really what ticked me off was the woman they interviewed, then the news showing empty lots just waiting to be used. It just screamed of entitlement to me. So I posted about it, not only here but in another forum ( you could find it doing a simple google search, and yes EE are the initials of my screen name there. ) My whole point was and still is, it makes sluggers/commuters come off very badly, PM is not coming off so bad for the simple fact that there is another lot that commuters can use but it sits empty because it is less convenient.

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Maybe you are Green then, the PM marketing director snooping around the forums to see what's going on. Or maybe one of the security guy in a helmet[^]




Or maybe, just maybe I am actually someone completely different from those two considering I work with the dead, also I don't even own a car. And if you are going to guess at who I am can I get guesses with better names.

My point was, I wanted to state how you all looked to those of us on the outside of all of this. NBC 4 news yesterday morning is what really did it for me, I saw the previous news cast about PM and slugging, but yesterday's newscast did not show sluggers in a favorable light, you come off looking like spoiled children who had there favorite toy taken away from them.

The simple fact is that while you have the right to complain about the parking, you really don't considering that there are other usable lots in the area that do not get full, and the fact that PM has no obligation other then the original amount of spaces, to give commuters more spaces.

Think of it this way, you are given a free cookie at the bakery then one day you decide one is not enough and want more the bakery then says only one and that is it. You get mad and then state that you will not do business with them again. You see it is a very immature thing to do, as well as greedy ( ooo I used a word Wayne did, that's it I must be him now. ). While not the same, it is. You were given something for free, then complained that it was not enough now you want more.


I don't think I can explain my viewpoint any better then what I already tried too.

ETA: If you really want to make sure I am not Wayne/Green ( are they suppose to be the same person because I am not sure.) Then do a google search for this: Commuters boycott over a parking space. It takes you straight to a thread on this subject.


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Again if I were Wayne then you would see it through they I write. People tend to write things the same way, even when they are pretending to be someone else, since it is the little mannerisms ( such as overly using caps lock, or some such thing )that give them a way. Oops maybe I gave away to much. Look I could care less if you think I am Wayne or not.

I was giving you someone else's perspective of the situation. I saw it on NBC 4 News yesterday morning, and really what ticked me off was the woman they interviewed, then the news showing empty lots just waiting to be used. It just screamed of entitlement to me. So I posted about it, not only here but in another forum ( you could find it doing a simple google search, and yes EE are the initials of my screen name there. ) My whole point was and still is, it makes sluggers/commuters come off very badly, PM is not coming off so bad for the simple fact that there is another lot that commuters can use but it sits empty because it is less convenient.

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Maybe you are Green then, the PM marketing director snooping around the forums to see what's going on. Or maybe one of the security guy in a helmet[^]
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EE, it doesnt matter that your trying to be objective. SOme of these poeple have been taught since childhood that they are special and as such everything they want they should have. Its what is fundamentally wrong with this country, state and county. Everyone has a sense of entitlement. If it wasnt for over $4 a gallon gas, the commuter lot wouldnt even fill the nearly 1000 spots PM gives to commuters, though they are only obligated to give 275.

I agree slugging for whatever reason is good for the environment as well as helping the community, but PM is not a tax payer funded parking lot. It is a business center that is open to the public though it is private property. Hence why when I catch shop lifters at my store we have them banned from the mall....which means if they come back to mall they are arrested for criminal trespassing.

I still think the best option was when VDOT wanted to build and maintain a free 6 level parking garage here in PWC. But the Board of Supervisors said no to it. So #1, complain to Supervisors to let the state fund a free access parking garage. #2, have you seen how many out of county cars are parked at PM to slug? Quite a few. WHy should these people, who do not live nor pay PWC taxes, be able to use OUR commuter lots, thereby leaving PWC commuters SOL......Shouldnt slugs from other counties lobby their county govt to do somethign and creat more parking lots for them??

See, I can see it from every point of view, and being an objective observer as well as someone who believes in fair play, can try to come up with a rational, logical solution...though I have noticed that cooler heads here seem to be beheaded as screams of "For the People", "We Demand as tax payers, " Etc.... seem to rule the day.

And yes, I do work at PM. I have been working here for nearly 5 yrs and I do pick up co-workers and others I know who work at the mall at different stores and we ride in together. We were doing this before $4 a gallon gas and before screams of "For the Environment" were hip and cool. I have a hybrid and have since they were first put on the market. I recycle, I refuse to use plastic or paper bags, I use a reusable bag I bought which helps cut down on trash and saves a few trees, My home is equiped with all Energy Star/Saver appliances, I use only low impact florescent light bulbs, and instead of cranking up a loud, energy hog of a heating/Air system, I use low impact/wattage fans.

But because I do not think slugs should have 4000 parking spots that makes me Mr. Anti-Environment, oil Co loving, pro-establishment.... Even though many of you who slug are the ultimate pro-establishment since you are federal employees. hmmmm........ Enjoy, Im sure trying to be sensible and logical will be wasted on many of the "I want, give me" crowd.
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Again if I were Wayne then you would see it through they I write. People tend to write things the same way, even when they are pretending to be someone else, since it is the little mannerisms ( such as overly using caps lock, or some such thing )that give them a way. Oops maybe I gave away to much. Look I could care less if you think I am Wayne or not.

I was giving you someone else's perspective of the situation. I saw it on NBC 4 News yesterday morning, and really what ticked me off was the woman they interviewed, then the news showing empty lots just waiting to be used. It just screamed of entitlement to me. So I posted about it, not only here but in another forum ( you could find it doing a simple google search, and yes EE are the initials of my screen name there. ) My whole point was and still is, it makes sluggers/commuters come off very badly, PM is not coming off so bad for the simple fact that there is another lot that commuters can use but it sits empty because it is less convenient.

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I think this guy is Wayne but just changed to a different name.
He has only one post so far LOL


No sorry I am a girl, and have no idea who Wayne is. Yes I only have one post because I signed up yesterday thus making that my first post.

I know what its like to go to a place of business and not be able to find parking because others have parked there for something completely unrelated to the place of business, they then lose my money and they sure aren't making money from the others. It sometimes happens where I work at, but then again we went out our parking spaces so we only have us to blame when our clients can't park.

I seriously believe what happened was PM was tired of being taken advantage of by people taking up more spaces then PM allowed for. PM is not at fault for the system being taken advantage of, but they are doing something about it. Maybe you should be directing your anger at those who park where they shouldn't at PM.

The argument that parkers are out by 5PM is not valid ( well at this time ) , it doesn't matter, during the summer the peak time is not after 5PM but during the day since school is out and kids and parents alike are looking for something to do.

Again boycott PM but you also need to look at it realistically in order for anything to come out of boycotting the mall you would need more then a few hundred boycotting in order for it to have any impact on the stores and the mall.

I don't see PM backing down and saying OK here is another 200 spots, and I don't see them stopping whatever it takes to make sure that commuters are staying within the area designed for commuters. It is a business, not commuters own private oasis of parking during the work day.

** I have no vested interested in either. I don't slug, nor do I shop at PM. Hell I live in Sterling so its much easier and closer for me to go to Leesburg Outlet Mall. I would slug but I rarely see a slug car at Herndon Monroe Park and Ride, well atleast when I am there catching the bus.


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So why would you even waste your time and reply to the posts here? I see that you are checking back at the side often to see if there are replies to your post. LOL
Wayne (girl) you are caught. [:D]
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