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   Yesterday around 5.20 P.M I did not find any riders for Potomac Mills, on 15th street, in front of Bank of America, where I normally used to pick up the past couple months. Did it move to any other place, or was it just a bad day?

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ssk1974 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote ssk1974 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 4:05pm
	Yesterday around 5.20 P.M I did not find any riders for Potomac Mills, on 15th street, in front of Bank of America, where I normally used to pick up the past couple months. Did it move to any other place, or was it just a bad day?

snlfam Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote snlfam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:21am
	No matter what the report states, the intention of DDOT from the beginning was to move ALL slugging pick-up locations off of 14th street. I do feel for those who have to walk the extra 2 blocks to get to the replacement stop for the commerce building (I will probably switch to the 15th and NY stop now). For drivers, I hope this detour may end up being quicker than dealing with traffic on 14th. In the end, the only way DDOT can move the slug lines is if the slugging community buys in... I just hope that it doesn't come down to police officers ticketing every driver that stops to pick up slugs at the old locations.

Salty Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 2010 at 7:10am
	After the 14th and New York location was moved to 15th what was stopping drivers from picking up riders further down 14th? The answer is knowledge. All you needed to know was where is the location at that you can pick up from. If you were a driver would you make all these crazy turns to pick up slugs on 15th or would you just keep driving down 14th? It is only a matter of time, maybe a few months, before the driver figures out they can save 5 minutes by picking up further down 14th street.

joelrutstein Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 27 Oct 2010 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote joelrutstein Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2010 at 1:50pm
	"Since a network approach was taken to address the location changes, the current 14th/Constitution location could not be preserved. 15th street is the main slugging corridor, therefore, maintaining connectivity with other slug line destinations along the corridor is the main reason for the change." This really doesn't make any sense, unless the argument is that it would be unfair to allow slugs to continue to use 14th Street at Constitution while all other 14th Street slugs were being moved to 15th Street. And even that would be an extremely weak argument. Slugs forced to move might be jealous if others could remain on 14th Street, but then again they might admire DC's implicit admission that there was no good reason for targeting that location. I still think in the absence of credible evidence that there was no good reason for targeting any of the existing locations. There is no rationale to using "a network approach," and "maintaining connectivity" only makes sense if drivers pick up from more than one location during a single trip home, which I don't think is a common practice.

Admin Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Admin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2010 at 5:03am
	Here is the message sent from DDOT: All- As promised, the final slugging report is attached. I would like to thank everyone for their input in determining how the District addresses slugging. The many comments helped identify a comprehensive system and the District Department of Transportation (DDOT) is committed to supporting slugging. The following adjustments were made: � The total number of curbside pickup locations were reduced from 9 to 8. � There will be more stops on 15th street instead of 14th street, but continuity with the slug line destinations will remain intact � There was concern pertaining to the relocation of the 14th street and Constitution Avenue location to 15th and Madison. Since a network approach was taken to address the location changes, the current 14th/Constitution location could not be preserved. 15th street is the main slugging corridor, therefore, maintaining connectivity with other slug line destinations along the corridor is the main reason for the change. � The District will work together to communicate the changes well in advance. The anticipated implementation date will be sometime in Mid-January (see page last page of document). DDOT will communicate the changes through multiple sources to ensure that all users are aware of the pending changes. Read DDOT Final Report: http://www.slug-lines.com/downloads/DDOT_Report.pdf

snlfam Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote snlfam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 2:09pm
	I received in an email fro DDOT on Saturday with a PDF attached entitled "District Slugging Plan: An Analysis of Slugging Activity for Recommending Curbside Locations in Washington, D.C.". This 12 page report summarized much of what they discussed at the last meeting and laid out the proposed new pick-up locations. The bottom line (as I read it) was ALL 14th ST PICK-UP LOCATIONS ARE BEING MOVED. The report sets the date for relocation of lines as "January 2011" but they do not give a specific date. My first response was a mix of anger, frustration, and rebellion. However, after reading the entire report, I feel DDOT has at least made an effort of coming up with a plausible solution. What I don't know is how it would work in practice. My personal biggest concern is that the new 15th and New York location will have a lot more riders than drivers and the next location for pick-up is not until the Mall. (Admin: Are you able to post the report on the web site so everyone can read it?) It appears that we as a community of sluggers now need to decide whether to accept the changes as proposed, or to come up with an alternative solution. At this point I am willing to swallow my pride if that is what the rest us decide will work. Is anyone good friends with the new mayor of DC?[:D]

getmehome pweeze Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 501	Post Options Post Reply Quote getmehome pweeze Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 1:59pm
	Ok, now I am totally confused. I was told word-of-mouth the evening 14TH and NY slug line to 610's was supposed to move to 15th street, this was last Thursday. I sent an email to this Mr. Cleckly on Monday afternoon, he told me the slug was has not and was not moving. So, whats the deal?

snlfam Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote snlfam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 3:16pm
	quote: Originally posted by getmehome pweeze I was told via email from Mr. Cleckly yesterday around 2 PM the slug line was not and has not been moved from 14th street. ?????? Which 14th street location are you referring to? As of yesterday, the 14th and NY location is still not there (I haven't checked to see if the 15th and NY moved location is working at all). Does anyone know what is happening at DC dept. of Transportation right now? Their last meeting materials stated that the date for "finalizing locations" is "Early-mid November". Maybe we should encourage them to hold off until after the new year to avoid the holiday vacationers.

getmehome pweeze Members Profile Find Members Posts Master Slug Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 501	Post Options Post Reply Quote getmehome pweeze Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 10:00am
	I was told via email from Mr. Cleckly yesterday around 2 PM the slug line was not and has not been moved from 14th street. ??????

c_quintarelli Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote c_quintarelli Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 9:41am
	It's important to try to force VA government to get involved on our behalf. Go to http://www.contactingthecongress.org to find out who your senators and representatives are. From there email links are provided making it very easy to write a letter requesting their help. If you don't want to craft your own letter just lift some comments from this topic. I have written my rep and both senators but one or two letters are not enough to create a buzz.