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"Since a network approach was taken to address the location changes, the current 14th/Constitution location could not be preserved. 15th street is the main slugging corridor, therefore, maintaining connectivity with other slug line destinations along the corridor is the main reason for the change."

This really doesn't make any sense, unless the argument is that it would be unfair to allow slugs to continue to use 14th Street at Constitution while all other 14th Street slugs were being moved to 15th Street. And even that would be an extremely weak argument. Slugs forced to move might be jealous if others could remain on 14th Street, but then again they might admire DC's implicit admission that there was no good reason for targeting that location. I still think in the absence of credible evidence that there was no good reason for targeting any of the existing locations.

There is no rationale to using "a network approach," and "maintaining connectivity" only makes sense if drivers pick up from more than one location during a single trip home, which I don't think is a common practice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Salty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2010 at 7:10am
After the 14th and New York location was moved to 15th what was stopping drivers from picking up riders further down 14th? The answer is knowledge. All you needed to know was where is the location at that you can pick up from. If you were a driver would you make all these crazy turns to pick up slugs on 15th or would you just keep driving down 14th? It is only a matter of time, maybe a few months, before the driver figures out they can save 5 minutes by picking up further down 14th street.
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No matter what the report states, the intention of DDOT from the beginning was to move ALL slugging pick-up locations off of 14th street. I do feel for those who have to walk the extra 2 blocks to get to the replacement stop for the commerce building (I will probably switch to the 15th and NY stop now). For drivers, I hope this detour may end up being quicker than dealing with traffic on 14th.

In the end, the only way DDOT can move the slug lines is if the slugging community buys in... I just hope that it doesn't come down to police officers ticketing every driver that stops to pick up slugs at the old locations.
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Yesterday around 5.20 P.M I did not find any riders for Potomac Mills, on 15th street, in front of Bank of America, where I normally used to pick up the past couple months. Did it move to any other place, or was it just a bad day?
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Forgive me if this was mentioned and I missed it, but if I understand this right, the bus stops are not moving? If that's the case, the only one benefitting from these moves is PRTC. Many people take whatever comes first, and often can't afford to wait and take a chance on getting a ride. So more people will be riding the bus, many of which are already overcrowded.

DDOT needs to investigate the buses before messing with the slug system. Since so many of them lately are sitting, for whatever reason, for more than 5 minutes (at least they do at 14th & D) after picking up riders, waiting 20 seconds for a car to load up and pull off isn't going to disrupt their schedule, so there's absolutely no need for them to be stopping in the middle lane or pulling half into the curb lane and blocking both lanes.

On top of that, the no parking zone during rush hour apparently only applies to cars, because trucks are always sitting in the curb lane across from the Reagan Building, and the police don't do anything about them. Cars that stop for half a minute is a huge issue, but large trucks parked for an hour or more...no big deal.
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The following was just sent out by PRTC. Ineresting with regard to the whole 14th and NY slug lines change.

**** Please FORWARD responses to OMNI@OMNIRIDE.COM. DO NOT “reply” to this e-mail address; it is used only by our automated alert systems and is not monitored for responses. **** ==================================================================================================================================================================================


As of mid-January all PM OmniRide buses that serve the State Department will be re-routed away from 14th Street, where extreme traffic congestion makes adherence to our published schedules unreliable. Starting in mid-January, afternoon and evening buses instead will be routed along 15th Street. Schedule brochures will NOT be reprinted at this time; however, the affected schedules and maps at PRTCtransit.org will be revised.



These PM routes are affected:

Dale City – Washington OmniRide (Dale City OmniRide trips that currently start at 14th and New York will instead start at H and Madison)
Lake Ridge – Washington OmniRide
Manassas OmniRide (including the AM reverse trips)
Route 1 OmniRide

Two PM bus stops will no longer be served:

14th and New York
14th and F

Alternate PM bus stops are:

Commerce Department
A new bus stop that will be added at 15th and New York.

Something new for passengers on Dale City – Washington and Lake Ridge – Washington buses:

During PM peak service hours (approximately 4 p.m. – 6 p.m.) buses on these two routes will run every 10 minutes, and on Modified Holidays the peak service will run every 20 minutes. Because the buses will have frequent headways, they will NOT be obligated to wait at the timepoint at the Commerce Department bus stop. Online schedules will be revised to reflect this change and it will be reflected in the Spring 2011 printed schedules.

Although it may take a little while to get used to these changes, PRTC is sure that they will benefit our passengers in the long run. Avoiding the intersection of 14th and H will greatly improve our service reliability, allowing everyone to get home a little more quickly and with less stress!

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Yesterday I went to the 15th Street location to pick riders up at about 4:45pm. I usually go to Horner Road but no one was in that line so I moved down to the Hechinger line - only one person in line. I put my hazards on to wait for another rider. Maybe one minute later a police car is behind me flashing his lights telling me to move. I thought that one reason behind moving the 14th Street line to 15th Street was so that the cars could wait for riders. I had to do the big circle back around 14th, Vermont, H and back to 15th Street. By the time I arrived back to where the lines form, three cars were waiting for riders - no riders for any location. What gives? Can we wait for riders and where are all the riders these days?
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Originally posted by Admin

Please provide feedback and/or suggestions on the changes to the 14th and NY slug line being moved to 15th and NY street.



Drivers have mentioned that it's difficult to get to the new location especially with H St. being one-way in the opposite direction, leaving them to weave their way around I and 16th Sts. Many now just continue on 14th to the Commerce Building. I have walked to Commerce -- the rides are plentiful!

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Originally posted by Admin

Please provide feedback and/or suggestions on the changes to the 14th and NY slug line being moved to 15th and NY street.



Drivers have mentioned that it's difficult to get to the new location especially with H St. being one-way in the opposite direction, leaving them to weave their way around I and 16th Sts. Many now just continue on 14th to the Commerce Building. I have walked to Commerce -- the rides are plentiful!

ForeverrSlugggerr



The rides have been plentiful... but where are the riders? Slim pick'ns these days.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Salty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2011 at 11:39am
Where do I pick slugs up today? On New York or on 13th?
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