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[br]I've seen one that reads "MY HOV" and needless to say, they don't pick up slugs at all.


Same here -- these types of plates can be pretty inflammatory, especially on a crowded Friday afternoon after counting 6 hybrids in the past 5 minutes.[}:)] Almost an 'up yours' attitude if you ask me...

- Will

On the other hand, given the confrontational attitudes some folks here show, a little bit of provocation is to be expected.....
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[br]I've seen one that reads "MY HOV" and needless to say, they don't pick up slugs at all.


Same here -- these types of plates can be pretty inflammatory, especially on a crowded Friday afternoon after counting 6 hybrids in the past 5 minutes.[}:)] Almost an 'up yours' attitude if you ask me...

- Will
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I've seen the one that reads "HOV-1" and as Jerryclapham says, he was with another person.
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I've seen one that reads "MY HOV" and needless to say, they don't pick up slugs at all.
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I have seen two uniques plates in the HOV. One on a hybird that states HOV-1. There were two people in the car. The other car regularly picked up at Potomac Mills his plates read SLUGCAR


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I can't find any anything ANYWHERE that gives the DMV rights to issue the CF license plate to a hybrid vehicle. It uses gasoline--end of story. But the DMV doesn't much listen to me. :(

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[br]Roadrunner, if you read the definition that 6. uses for clean special fuel vehicle(§ 46.2-749.3) then hybrids don't qualify.

mfassler, that's great that DMV has that on their website. But they have to abide by state law and their actions have to be rooted in law. Right now I'm trying to figure out what law they are using to claim the authority to issue to plates to hybrids. I can't find one.

USA, you are right about the ILEV law only applying to federally funded HOV lanes. But the state clean special fuel exemption grants access to all HOV lanes in VA(including federaly funded ones) without specifying that clean special fuel vehicles have to be at least ILEV rate. So it does run afoul of the federal law.
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USA, you are right about the ILEV law only applying to federally funded HOV lanes. But the state clean special fuel exemption grants access to all HOV lanes in VA(including federaly funded ones) without specifying that clean special fuel vehicles have to be at least ILEV rate. So it does run afoul of the federal law.

Right, I follow you; what I meant to say but didn't say very clearly was that Virginia could impose a split regime and allow hybrids (and ILEVs) into HOV lanes not built using any federal dollars, while allowing only the ILEVs (and not the hybrids) into the HOV lanes built in whole or part with federal dollars.

I guess ideally then the hybrids would get their own special license plate instead of the CF.
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Roadrunner, if you read the definition that 6. uses for clean special fuel vehicle(§ 46.2-749.3) then hybrids don't qualify.

mfassler, that's great that DMV has that on their website. But they have to abide by state law and their actions have to be rooted in law. Right now I'm trying to figure out what law they are using to claim the authority to issue to plates to hybrids. I can't find one.

USA, you are right about the ILEV law only applying to federally funded HOV lanes. But the state clean special fuel exemption grants access to all HOV lanes in VA(including federaly funded ones) without specifying that clean special fuel vehicles have to be at least ILEV rate. So it does run afoul of the federal law.
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Seen your car OFTEN. I'll give you the short version. I generally don't go into work until after 9:00 a.m. I do return home SOMETIMES before the 6:00 p.m. HOV deadline. I am a military wife that lives on the Quantico Marine Base. My line of work almost completely requires that I work in the Dulles corridor area. As a military wife, I don't CHOOSE to be here and am just doing my best to make it through the 3+ year tour here. Owning a Hybrid helps. Now, I also HELPED to eliminate congestion, by negotiating a telecommuting proposal with my company. 2 days per week ... many weeks ... I'm able to work from home. As far as my route ... I drive 95 to 395 get off at the Pentagon, shoot across 110 to 66 and connect to the Dulles Tollroad. It 10 extra miles, but gets me to work 25-30 minutes faster than the beltway and 20+ minutes faster than ALL of the backroads.

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[br]Works in Reston? I guess that qualifies for some slack. However, I'm surprised that LSG uses I-95 or the HOV at all, rather than taking the back way out 610 through Manassas. But whatever works....

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[br]LSG works out in the Reston area (got this from another thread). Gotta cut her some slack.
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Hopefully they will expire that illegal, and extremely deterimental exemption sooner than July 2006...but until then, we can just keep hoping that the drivers will learn on their own to help others in need and help reduce the congestion that we all face day-in and day-out.

The ILEV exemption is not "illegal."

Actually, as far as the hybrid exemption goes, the exemption would only be illegal on HOV lanes built using federal money, as those are the only roads on which the feds can regulate such things. Virginia could continue to allow hybrids into the HOV lanes in Old Town or on the Dulles Toll Road (which I think was widened using only state funding). I'm not saying they should or should not--just that they could.
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