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    Posted: 27 May 2004 at 12:39am
Ok so two out of three days this week, the HOV lanes were more crowded than the regular lanes! There are too many Hybrids out there, I think they should make all Hybrids pick up a slug. Also, Hybrids should ONLY be allowed in the right lane, since I've never seen one go above 70. Be courteous to your fellow slug drivers, we are the ones that carry the load, and besides, we're all going to the same place!
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I must add that I hardly see a Hybrid going faster than 60. However, there are a lot of non-hybrid cars going slow in the left lane on HOV especially in the leg of Edsall Rd. and Springfield because the exit is located in the left side of the highway in the afternoon.
As soon as they enter the HOV at Edsall Rd. entrance they move over to the left lane causing congestion along this area because they move very slow. Others, like HOV violators, who gain access to the HOV lanes due to the open to all traffic at Edsall Rd., move also very slow because they are trying get to Springfield after 6pm.
We are hopeless unless they denied access to these people once the Mixing Bowl is finished.
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I'm one of those Hybrid drivers ... I drive a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. WOULDN'T I LOVE TO SLUG. My commute is from Quantico to Dulles ... certainly not condusive to ANY public transportation or slugging. My Hybrid FLIES though ... and most of the 2003s and 2004s are the same. I can easily accelerate to 80, if I choose. Though I'm wondering why you are upset about people driving 70 ... when the speed limit is 65 or less?
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There are some hybrids that do go fast, but a majority do seem to poke along. And it's not only the hybrids.

The reason people like other drivers to drive faster is because no one wants to sightsee along 95, and the left-hand lane should be the passing lane. I think the same goes for the regular lanes, but in the HOV lanes, it's especially annoying. This morning I was in the left lane and a huge SUV was going very slow, and once I got past him, I saw 2 hybrids just taking their time getting to work. I'm not advocating flying down 95/395, but when traffic warrants it, I am in favor of going 75 at least when possible.
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Fromwoodbridge is right. Nobody wants to sightseeing along the HOV lanes. Especially if you're on your way to work or coming back home. You don't know what's going to happen next. For instance, the milestone is to get to Springfield by or before 6pm in the afternoon. Otherwise, you'll get stuck in traffic.
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Hybrids that go 65 and below, and equally slow moving other vehicles should always stay in the right lane. It's common courtesy. Either that or stop stalling traffic and hurry up.

ScarletLSG, since you say you "can easily accelerate to 80, if I choose," pray tell why don't you? Other than gas consumption, is there another viable reason why Hybrids don't like to speed up? I have been asking myself that question since I saw my first Hybrid stalling traffic on the HOVs.

I agree with FromWoodbridge, all traffic on the left lane should go at least 75. And if a slow poke from the right lane moves to the left lane - speed up and don't hold up traffic.

I also agree with SlugginFool, there ARE "too many Hybrids out there." They are not welcome on the HOV lanes and should not be allowed use them - unless they fulfill the 3 persons per vehicle rule AND don't impede the flow of traffic. Otherwise they can go to the regular lanes that move just as slow.
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Hybrids can't do quick acceleration -- was explained when purchased. Imagine that they are a Ford Escort.... But after a point, they can cruise at 80 mph (been there an done it). However, the cars get better gas mileage at 55-65 mph. How about all you speeders slow down a bit? I was cruising (hybrid) at 70 and I was almost taken out by an SUV in the right hand lane! I was almost run off the road by a camry out of pure rudeness.

Please note that this week is the WWII Memorial dedication and there is a definite increase in bus traffic, particularly around Seminary. And "security" has been stepped up.
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It seems ridiculous to have to ask this, but why, why, WHY can't left lane hogs just get the &%$# over if they are going below the prevailing speed? Why is that so hard? It really isn't a question of whether people should be speeding or not. That is for the police to decide. It really is a question of common courtesy.

Even if I'm going 80 in the left lane on HOV or any other road, I get over if someone comes up behind me. It is not for me to say whether they should be going that fast or not. For all I know, their kid was just in an accident and is clinging to life in some hospital. Probably not, but what if? Just because you feel you have the law on your side, you feel you can just hold everyone up? Well, in Virginia, the speeders have the law on their side, too! That's right - the law is: keep right except to pass. As Dave Barry would say, you could look it up.

Just a little common courtesy would go a long way toward helping us all get where we're going safely. Poking along in the left lane causes a lot of lane shifting behind you, increasing the chance of accidents. If you just got over to the right hand lane and let people go by, you would be safer and so would they (and happier, too).

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Yesterday, I watched a motorcyclist rudely flip off the driver of a car in the left lane as the cyclist careened around on the right, taking his eyes off the road and one hand off his controls. Real mature. And...you guessed it...the car got off at the next LEFT exit. Virginia law may say "Keep right except to pass," but there are valid reasons to be in the left lane. If I'm coming up on my left exit, I'm not going to move over for some nut who wants to go 90 mph and then get blocked by traffic from my exit. Also, if I'M in the process of trying to pass, even if I'm driving a mere 75, the too-important-to-drive-sanely jerk can wait until I've finished passing and can SAFELY pull to the right.
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It seems that hybrids are the cause of all types of global calamities lately. From over congestion in the HOV lanes to stock marker fluctuations. I am amazed at how much is devoted to them and nobody seems to pick up on the amount of people that have moved into the Fredericksburg and north areas. I would agree they hybrids contribute to the issue but are far from the reason that the lanes are crowded and people move slow in the left hand lane. Just seems easier to blame them for all our problems encountered in our search for a quick way to travel 60 plus miles to work. That being said, until the law is changed I feel we need more focus on extending the HOV lanes south along 95 to try to avoid the crush of vehicles at the merge near Quantico.
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