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   Most SOV and hybrid drivers I know do not and will not pick up "hitchhikers".  To get more drivers picking up riders, riders need to start sharing the cost.  Slugs would improve their social status among the majority (folks who pay for their own ride to work) if it became known they offer tips.

	If you don't believe me, just hold up a sign that says "I tip" and see if you aren't called even if you're 20 people back in line.

	Keep slugging alive - tip your driver today!

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122582 Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote 122582 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 8:06am
	Most SOV and hybrid drivers I know do not and will not pick up "hitchhikers". To get more drivers picking up riders, riders need to start sharing the cost. Slugs would improve their social status among the majority (folks who pay for their own ride to work) if it became known they offer tips. If you don't believe me, just hold up a sign that says "I tip" and see if you aren't called even if you're 20 people back in line. Keep slugging alive - tip your driver today!

wmcg Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote wmcg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 9:21am
	I don't know where some of these posts are coming from, but my original topic was looking for support from VDOT and members of congress along with the state police to get the HOV operating hours changed to start them earlier and continue them longer. I believe this, admititly a bandaid, could be valuable in allowing for a smoother commute.

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 12:53pm
	wmcg: It ties, in a round about way. Increasing the HOV hours on the express lanes decreases the time for the express lanes to be used by SOVs. Currently, there are quite a number of SOV drivers who try to beat or outwait the rush by leaving earlier for work or returning later. Changing the hours for HOV might have the unintended problem of clogging the main lanes even more - and that is likely to be untenable with the state government.

SpongeBob Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote SpongeBob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 1:59pm
	Who gives a flying fig newton about the selfish drive-holes in the regular lanes? Let them move closer to their work or condescend to rideshare. If they don't like their commute, TOO BAD! Now, let's get back to a more thoughtful discussion of the impact of extending the HOV-only hours... One thing I fear would happen is that the lots would fill even earlier in the morning. The 234 lot, for example, now fills by 6:30. Push the HOV start time to 5:00 a.m. and it will fill by 5:30. The other lots, too, might fill an hour earlier. Probably would, IMO. In other words, rather than spread the congestion out, it would move it forward an hour, then leave the lanes emptier in the final hour. If you expand the times, then you need to expand the parking facility that supports it.

NoSUV Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote NoSUV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 2:25pm
	wmcg: It ties, in a round about way. Increasing the HOV hours on the express lanes decreases the time for the express lanes to be used by SOVs. Currently, there are quite a number of SOV drivers who try to beat or outwait the rush by leaving earlier for work or returning later. Changing the hours for HOV might have the unintended problem of clogging the main lanes even more - and that is likely to be untenable with the state government.

n/a Members Profile Find Members Posts New Slug Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Location: VA Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote n/a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Nov 2005 at 2:28pm
	Hey 122582, why are you even here? Why are you polluting the bandwidth with your nonsensical babbling? Why would you even chime into this discussion but to spread your selfish, egotistical goofball theology? You are not even a participant in slugging, you're a taxi driver! Until you embrace the simplistic beauty and perfection of slugging, your opinion doesn't even matter. The discussion about HOV hours, however, goes hand-in-hand with other valid suggestions such as HOV-4, no exemptions, and adding HOV lanes as a way to build on the success of the HOV system. For the average sulgger who commutes during 'peak' hours, extending the HOV restriction hours would not really matter except maybe in finding parking. It would, however, adversely affect the SOV lanes as those early and late commuters who skirt the HOV times could be thrown back into the SOV lanes. For HOV commuters and slugs there are some real advantages; some commuters would exercise flex-time (early or late) schedules and use sluging, taking those riders and drivers off the roads during peak hours. This is one of a very few good solid discussion points to come out of this forum in a long time! Here's another: "Flex-lanes," or lanes that change direction to accomodate the traffic volume during the day. Imagine a whole highway with lanes that change direction based on commuter volume.